Welcome back everyone. This is Chasing Bad episode thin. It's a fun So tonight we're gonna be talking about what is it? We will be talking about the burglary. So for those of you who are not familiar with that, there are where we're from, Youngstown, Ohio, where we're from the valley bro Steel Valley, Steel Valley. Baby. Yeah, hardcore, good people man, hard work, great people, good, good place to be, resilient, resilient people in this area, which is a great thing. You know, people are innovative, but to grow up here. So it just talks about a gang from Youngstown who actually uh requested the professional worksmanship of a couple of guys from the Cleveland area and they made the biggest bank heist in American history. So it's pretty cool, man. And like all these cats are from Youngstown, the majority of them, like like five out of the seven. Yeah, that's that's that's awesome. I mean, not that we want to well, I mean we're not famous for many things, but these are kind. But you know, with that being said, these aren't these these were good. These guys were career criminals, like they knew what they were doing. They were they weren't just a bunch of yucks from you know, putting together. Hey let's go rob the liquor store and see if we can get away with it. And I give them respect because they're not murderers exactly. There was never Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's wrong, Okay, it's against the laws. But I don't even know if they carried guns on the heist. To be honest with you, I don't think they did. I know, I know, Uh, Charlie probably yeah, he probably did because he's a he's a town Yeah, but uh like Christopher phil Christopher right, yeah, yeah, reportedly that he hated guns. Yeah, he was. He was. He was just like you did, get put away from murder though for twenty seven years. That was all I honestly, he just took the fall from Yeah, he's just he's just a good dude and he ain't gonna rat nobody out. That's a that's a that's a loyal cat right there. Ma, that's a neighborhood dude. That's that's yeah, exactly, man, that's a dude who knows where he's from and he knows what he's about. I mean, there's no question asked. He will do time plus prisons. Better than being dead. Yeah. Number one rule around here is don't get dead. Yeah, He's right. So like, uh and I want to read the get this well, you know what, we got some shout outs. Let's get these yeah out of the way. Shout out to groover roofing and siding. What what is up for all your roofing need boys? Good, did good, real good. And then my mind mix Mix mixed Traine got them to the fam for sure. All my unks that are listening, they might even know some of these dudes I met the call I guess uncle Dale, uncle Johnny or shoot him attacks. Hey do you you guys were around during Yeah, this time, I was. I was born in seventy one ship so this this went down in seventy two. It was in a newspaper. So everybody are all Youngstown boys. And reportedly there's about one hundred of them that could do that job because like Youngstown was the epicenter of like Cleveland Youngstown eerie. They called it, like, uh, the dudes that just did heist in Southeast and I guess it's you know, Southeast not Ohio. But the United States was super easy to do, you know. And then obviously in Ohio, Pennsylvania. Right, and I mean I think they had thirteen in Ohio alone before they got popped that they thought they did. Right, it's the same. But with that being said, like what you're talking about with the oh, hold up, Ashley, I love you baby, you know who you are. Gave a shout out the Anna last week. Okay, go ahead, go ahead, man, go ahead. I had to get that in there. And that's what I call it dope. Um. Anyways, So what it comes down to is all these cats from the Youngstown area that were involved in these criminal activities weren't trying to hurt anybody. They were. They were the they were if they figured they were punking the insurance companies, which they kind of felt were, they had their hand in the tool. You know. It's just like a bookmaker. You know, it's really odd, so good that they're making money hand over for you. Well, you know, the cool thing about it is there is a code. There's a code amongst thieves and for those kind of guys you know, who were true thieves that weren't you know, out to hurt anybody. They were they were there for the score. That was it. Yeah, you know what I mean those guys. You gotta love that. Yeah, if you listen to christ of the interviews with Christopher Phil Christopher out of Collingwood, he was a calling and I guess there was a huge like the Collingwood Cruise. They were the it was like the the major league like burglars. Yea from Collingwood in Youngstown. Yeah, which is nuts. But here's something cool about Amil Denzil. They say he was legendary, still is legendary, and he perfected the art of bank burglary in a way that nobody else had. He broke it down, man, yeah, man. And then you know it goes on to say he grew up poor in Youngstown, Ohio before taking up with the Mob, was already an established bank robber when he got a tip from Jimmy Frickin' Hoffa, the infamous president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, about a bank in California with thirty million hidden thirty million dollars BAM hidden in a safe deposit box at the Lagoon and Nogal Bank. So in halfa got ahold of the Cleveland Boys. The Mob up there specifically looking for Amil to do this job. So they got a hold of Yostin got a hold of him because halfa he gave. You know, he gave I guess three million to Nixon and Nixon like screwed him and he wanted to reclaim the money after Nixon cost him as his job as the Teamster president and provided Denzio with the multi million dollar tip. That's crazy, you know, I guess there's still a lot of stuff coming out, well even about half or not half a. But Nixon Nixon about like that. It was thirty million dollars of his money from dirty fundraising and extortion almost Oh yeah, I'm sure it was. So there's like, yeah, his his slush fund, dirty money to get his reelection for his re election campaign. He was squirreling that shit away. And I guess if somebody would give him a million dollars, pledge a million dollars, he'd be like, if you can afford a million, you can afford too, and so on. So he was a dirty bastard to begin with. We have a lot of tapes to him being a dirty cocksucker. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, that's the funny thing. It's like it's right there in front of you. I mean, you know, you know, you know what the hell, Like, I guess he like totally extorted the dairy farmers like of the United States, and they like gave him a shit time, like millions, multi million dollars because he was going to back them. Yeah. So he'd raised the price of freaking milk, dude. Yeah, so he extorted them for millions. Oh yeah, yeah, freaking And that's back in the sixties and seventies. Yeah, these days were just trying to make an honest pieces as shit. Yeah, fast forward to day, they just do shit blatant. They're out the opening h absolutely. But like the cool thing about it was like these guys wanted to get them, like some of them were some are retired already joker well, and they were like, yeah, I'm fucking in, count me in, I want some of Nixon's with fucking hate Nickson. They hated them because they got from blue collar working well I think that was their their motive really would ended up being their motive money once they found out. I mean, but it, you know, icing on the cake was it was Nixon's money. Yeah, and even the Feds only said that forty five thousand dollars was ever stolen. Yeah, Denzio to this day claims and like vehemently that there was thirty million dollars in cash. Everything else was icing. Yeah. Well, I mean even the Bears they were talking about. Yeah what bear bonds were like millions and they were only getting because they had to fence him. Yeah, thirty to forty on the doll Yeah from that. Oh yeah, Cleveland fence. Yeah it was. It was not Sasha, but you just told me his name. Yeah, we were just talking about it earlier. Oh good, heavens, come on now, alright, put the chronic down. Dead boy not good? Damn that boy not good? Oh what is his name? You're gonna have to dig I'm digging deep, man, but I'm trying to work my way through this. So there's a fence in Cleveland, Yeah, and everybody knows them. Sasha probably Cohen or something something similar to that is a Jewish, I believe. So the thing about Cleveland, Cleveland mafia, they were Jews, Irish, you name it, not just Italian melting pot. Yeah, Italian's Mary intermarried like the boss up there. He was fighting with Jimmy Green, right, Jimmy Green, Danny Green. Yeah. I always want to say Jimmy, but he married they in. His partner was a Jew, so they were like hand in hand. Well yeah, you know, they married each other's freaking sisters. It's crazy. I can't remember what the hell that guy's name. It doesn't You just said you said Sasha, but a Hongy I meant to say, but a white bo damn it. We had a we had a ppe break because you know, we're older men, prostates. So a lot of interesting characters, a lot of pedigree, like the best of the best. This was like the super This is the all star team of bank heists. And I know you want to touch on a lot of stuff we've got, you know, I mean background. Denzil's accomplices were his brother James Denzil, his nephews Harry and Ronald Barber. Harry Barber and his brother and Lottle Bitch, his brother in law, Charles Bulligan, Irish right Scottish or Irish alarm expert Phil Christopher which garners his his. He sends out his and you told me you hooked me up. I actually watched it today. I can't remember what the hell was super. Yeah, it's actually a pretty good Northeast Ohio documentary. He's an interesting dude, but he's really that would that's just his side of the story. There's a book out that Denzil wrote with his daughter. I can't remember what it is. I know it's here, but you know, they haven't done anything as far as a movie. And one of the guys that have, you know, he was a consultant on finding Steve McQueen from nineteen all the President's money and I did not. Oh yeah, in a premiere NBC's Superhis they they take this United California burglary. They do it and I did catch. I mean, do yourselves a favor. People don't watch. Don't ever watch the FBI Files. It's garbage, Like the only I've seen it a couple of times, and I've been kind of abreast of like the goings ons from docs and reading and they get it. They just sensentialize everything and it's all that's It's like they f up so many details that are they have to be. They don't have to get drama, you know whatever. Don't fucking watch that for any facts. If you want facts, go to other sources. Don't ever watch the FBI Files. Plus, they're all crooked bastards anyhow, But what an eclectic crew. So and the bastard Charles Brockel, Yes, and he was you know, Phil Christopher, Christopher and him, I don't know. I guess they kind of grew up. And Charlie was a real just a piece of work. He shot a guy for not getting out of off a barstool fast enough. He get drunk to drugs, short temper. Phil always could calm him down, but he was a real douche fuck. He was just insecure about it. Sounds a lot like me. He's insecure bottom, real shithead. Okay, but yeah, so he's pivotal and really the unraveling of this the world's greatest highest up to that point, at least I think it's. I think heer. He was kind of like, so, so, you got all these guys super professional, except for Charlie. I ain't talking mulligan. Never trust a dude named Charlie. He calls himself Charles or Chuck. You can put on a dude named Chuck. Butt fuck, Chuck. What's up? Chuck? Puke up Chuck. Yeah, that's a Chuck, right, don't shout out to Chucky. Right. There you go, nobody knows. He'd be like, what's up, chuck, He'd say puke. Yeah, So not to get too far off the rails, I mean, where do you want to pick this up from? But he's you're just like stuffing. He's eating chocolate covered nuts, and well, it time nuts. Let's get to it. Let's get to the bottom of it. Let's do it, man. I mean, we get enough background. What it comes down to is Amildinzio got a tip from somebody allegedly that there was thirty million dollars just ina in a safety deposit box for Richard Nixon. That was his dirty campaign money. So these guys figure, you know, we'll go get some money. And then once they finished the job, it was over and above what they thought it was going to be. Over and above. They had specialized tools they had. These guys were like when the FBI saw how they did it, they were like, these guys are state of the art, the best. They have to be the best in the world. They never saw anything like it in California, not one fingerprint anywhere they spent. Oh god, it had to been Falcon Yeah, because they went back in the day banks were only open, you know, they weren't open on the weekends, so they went out their case to joint for months. They bird dogged it. They had they had gone out on you know, scouting missions. Essentially flew out. That's the thing. They flew out. They would fly out from Cleveland, you know, like a bunch of dumbasses. But so they put months of planning into this, right. The only like twist that that kind of threw them was and it surprised him because phil Christopher, he used to have dudes with ad t he had cops giving him alarms all the latest ship was not only was he like an idiot savant with voltage and just this the wiring systems of alarms, right, and the different I mean because yeah, he knew all the new ship. He knew he'd have like had all this ship in his basement. He'd just practice on. Yeah, when they said that when they whenever he'd walk into somewhere, he'd just be checking out the alarm. That's the one due was saying that he was friends with. He'd be like he'd walk in, he'd be like looking around checking out this camera, that camera, this angle point, that angle point. It's funny, as dad had a buddy that owned a business, and he's like, yeah, come on in, you can you know whatever all night, And all he did was check out the alarm system. Yeah, play with it and ship he said, if you said it off, yeah he's here. He's here by my permission. Yeah. So the dude was on a cusp of like alarm yeah greatness. Yeah, oh absolutely. If he was a straight guy, he would have been a millionaire. Yeah, and that was his goal. He wanted to be a millionaire millionaire by thirty and he was on his way, oh for sure. Yeah, this at least a couple million. Imagine in the seventies a millionaire and this is early, this is seventy two. Yeah, that's crazy. So you got to understand as you got in even into seventy three, seventy four. Dude, he was doing his shit in the sixties. Yeah, he's got his key. His first job was like sixteen hundred bucks. Like one of the goomballs in a neighborhood told him and his buddies to go through the roof, go through the roof, told him how to do the safe. Cut a hole here this and that I already knew the safe. I guess one of the neighborhoodhood dudes, the older guy, and they did it, and they got their sixteen hundred bucks, split it all up, and he was off to the races. He also attributes his life of being a criminal, his criminal life, to the fact he got rheumatic fever. He was an athlete. He was trophy winning archer, baseball player, you know, et cetera, et cetera. All he did and then yeah, he wasn't. They moved his bad into the living room. I was sick for he was in a wheelchair for His parents would not let him play sports anymore. They became over like a helicopter, you know, parent. And that's what he talks about. He says, you know that's right when my life changed. Yeah, so he started doing shit like this. Yeah, started hanging out with the thieves. So real interesting background, really cool background. Yeah, he's actually it's just like you listen to him talk, it's just like dudes, we grew up within the neighborhood. They're older brothers or uncles, their dads. I mean, it's just absolutely for us. It's that's the kind of neighborhood we grew up in. Yeah, it's just like wow, I mean half the time people were speaking Italian. Yeah, sometimes you couldn't somebody and terrible, terrible kids. So many tomatoes, Yeah, you don't know. Kids. Never never raid a garden and put tomatoes in a pillow case, especially a white one. Your mom will notice. You'll get busted. But even so, don't even rate a garden because it's a lot of work. Yeah, them poor old people, Oh my gosh, they can put a lot of work into those gardens. We were terrible shit, and those gardens were amazing. They were amazing to they had. I mean, if we were smart, we would have been picking it and eating it. Which was that too, Not like all day we'd stop in somebody's gardens, not like we should have been, though, you know what I mean. Making a salad with some oliver. You have the olive oil? Yeah, who's got the olive oil? Who's got the pepper? Do you have the gast some freshly grated romano cheese? Making meat bowl, spicy ones, it's spice to meet the bowl. Huh. Making a Sunday gravy? What are your kids going on the garage? Get out of the garage. Every Sunday you're gonna have soup because you've been drinking too much over the weekend. Soup man. Now I'm old. I feel soup coursing through my veins when I like, take that broth in good making me right, and like I feel like Popeye, you know he eats that can of spension from boom boom boom to his fists and ship. Oh sorry, there's something to be said about we had a little veno. So are we drinking Chiraz? But Chiraz Back to the Denzil brothers and the Barbers Mulligans. So they were all family except for Phil, which Phil was actually a good friend of animal. But Phil had a bad choice in Buddies broccl Yeah, Charlie well, I think he kind of had a sympathetic side for him. Yeah, because Charlie had a care of him. I think that whole entire mentality did Charlie Brockle have where he was a bully and he you know, fighting you'd get out of controlling. He was either beat as a kid, his old man was a drunk, or he didn't have it. You know, there's some underlying You don't just become like that. That's tough neighborhood that you had, you know, some people break, some people turn into astros, and some people excel. Well, hell out right, because the people outside of his neighborhood, he could have tried to fool them. Yeah, your influences in there and they're hard to escape. Yeah, so, I mean, you know, but think about it. They were badasses back in the day. They were high rollers. They kept calling them high rollers. They kind of were getting on their trail, like why are they not staying? They checked all like the high end hotels. Yeah, once they figured out who was coming to town. They're like the fifth Seasons and the you know, a five star and they're like, the wives are coming out, but they're bringing their wives. Yeah, they did have family out there. The who the hell one of the one of they stayed in that hotel, one of the dzils. Okay, it was a Dingo sister. She lived out there. She was married. She lived in a in a I think it was a condo, like a condo association. And uh, that's where they kind of bunked up. Is that where they were That was their center of operations. Well, no, they that's right. They ran in a place that you could see from you because see Christopher says that they just said, hey, here, they knocked on a family, gave a ship they wanted. It was like a block away. It was like, here's three grand, you and the kids go away for a week. Yeah, and they did, and they did. Said that great. Though, those people are like, fucking what can you do to my house? You know, I'm okay with you doing whatever you're doing, because I'll just say, hey, I was forced out of my home. Yeah. Yeah, they're like, we don't even want to know. Just give us a cash ye, cash money, baby, three grand and seventy two? Yeah, like nine to ten grand. Yeah that maybe more might be like getting a fucking twenty but regardless, we're saying nine million turns into what with inflation? What the fuck was it? I can't remember the percentage go it was. Wasn't it thirty? Yeah? It was maybe sixty? Oh anyhow, I'm not going to get in the weeds. Yeah, anyways with uh. But you know what's crazy is that it was one of the biggest manhunts in FBI history. They had one hundred and twenty five agents assigned to the case. I wonder if that's before they pulled in Cleveland and Youngstown offices because they're the ones that pretty much broke the case, like, yeah, we got these too, because they checked all over the country, the FBI, like who's doing the who's with these modus operandis? Yeah, pretty freaking state of the art. Yeah, they know what they're doing the greatest. If anybody's used the good stuff foam insulation in a can, well back in seventy two, I guess you'd mix two cans of these products and you can mix styris liquid styrofoam. Yeah, they were talking and they did that, and they remember if you guys remember, if you are even at old schools, you'd have the like a box of horns, a bell, No, it's the bell with that oh yeah, that hammer all hitting the bell rope in between classes. You know, when recess was over, they would this crew how they operated each bank robbery. They'd freaking gum that up with that styrofoam, liquid styrofoam that would harden ingenius. Yeah beautiful. Yeah, because you've used that good stuff. This comes out of you sprang crack spans and it's the same ship. I mean, it'll it'll it'll literally spread block. Yeah, I don't like block apart. Yeah, a little move if you're doing it. If you fuck it up and you like do it on a like a door, if you can super if you do a doors round the window, man, don't pop your damn moldings and ship God damn, you gotta take a knife for a you gotta cut it. You're like, son, cut it, flush baby, because it keeps expanding. But that's a that's a great idea. Yeah, you tell me. And they had a special made drill, yes, I think it was. Was it twenty five hundred r people one fie but the way it was five hundred I believe it was. Yeah, but it was enough to drive a damn and inge masonry bit into concrete. But it was quiet. Yeah, it was special built for them. Yeah, so you would war a lot of noise. Yeah, that that's a Have you ever I watched I sell the pictures you've done. I know it's it's like this big thing. It's like a yeah, it doesn't even really look it looks like someone on a breast exactly. Yeah, it looks almost looks like a jackhammer. These bastards tapped into the electrical to use all their tools, their electrical like sass or whatever it was back then whatever they needed to cut, even just just looping the and then the alarm back to itself, I know, and soldering it. Yeah. So yeah, so that it could you couldn't be detected because it was just in a constant circle with itself. It's its own circuit. Yeah, that's fine, dude, that's a genius. I mean, you've gotta you gotta getta well, we gotta go back. You gotta give that all the phil Christopher. But yeah, I guess he used to jog and they were right by because they went Saturday night and he's like, oh, fuck, nothing's nothing. I can't find the the voltage to this alarm and something's going on. This isn't right. It's going to relay it still to the outside alarm. So they had old ship. Excuse me, I'm smoking a pipe, not a crack pipe. It's a little line. It's plumb pudding boy. So so he's like, fun, what's going And everybody's like, we got out all these months, wasted all this money, we wasted case in this joint for the last two months, flying out the Cali back and forth all this ship. So he takes a jog on the golf course and then it comes to him. He says, he's like, son of a bitch, and I don't know the tech. It's an old school alarm system. Yeah, and he's like, you gotta be shipping me, whereas phil Christopher was staying with the times cutting edge something like this since the mid sixties, right, so he's talking about the latest in alarm you know whatever the word is ology. Yeah. Yeah, he's like on the cusp of the industry standards, like ahead of it even. Yeah, it's all his you know, you just pay people, cops and yeah, ad T alarm people. Yeah, give him the later ship. Yeah, let me know what's going on, and I'll take it down to my basement and I'll practice it. Because when they when they raided his house, they found like all kinds thirty different alarm systems in his basement, all taken apart and put. I mean that that's and they also found a direct line to that sergeant Oh yeah, yeah, yes, yes, it was like the right and the number was written on it. Got all about that, and he was there to bust them, yeah, on the and they never talked about what happened to that. No, they never said anything after the fact that he was like he was out at the bus at the swatting or whatever you want to go with this. I think that's the new Once he was outed, they you know you kind of it was just a quick in and out, man, that's nuts. So so he figured it out on his jog and they went back Sunday and salvaged it. Yes, and they had to do much more work. But it's amazing how they blew through the reinforced concrete, which I guess they always do. So they had dynamite, they had sand. They brought canvas bags to make sand bags, and they made sand bags on sight. Like I think they took out one or it's like twenty of them, like thirty or forty. Yeah, because all the they had to drill the holes the one inch bit with that special drill bit, put the dynamite down man, yeah, with the electronic caps you know, put sand. Then fill up like in the shrubs because there were shrubs along the one side, and they actually clipped the lights in the dark and put a ladder up and all that crap. And they would go down and dig the freaking shrubs around the shrubs and fill up these sand these these sandbags and hump them up to get on the roofs again, just a normal ladder, and then they cover up the blasting caps. You could see the blasting caps sticking out and half sticks. I guess they made half stick dynamites for it. Dynamite sticks covered those up so it directed the blast inward, downward and not upward, and muffled all the sound because when they lit it off, some of the guys that were outside were like, what the fuck is going on? They're already done, bro, They're like fuck you guys are like yeah, So like they had an explosive expert. Was the brother of James. Yeah, there you go, the older brother that he handled all that ship. It was like the all star team and it's crazy thinking about it. And Emil was like the world's premiere, like safecracker at the time. He did jobs in the fifties and sixties, and like we said, he's a legend. Anybody that wanted anything open would go to him if they needed hard if they had hard targets, reinforced concrete. He'd grab his brother and all these guys, his nephews and his brother in law and they'd do the deed man and he would keep like his like him and his brother would do the harder stuff that you do more time for like he tried to take care of his nephews. Maybe they wouldn't do something. They'd be like lookouts and just grunt guys, you know, doing the physical labor. Yeah, but you know, so they blew that down, got in there, and so nobody would know from the outside, like yeah when people arrived, because they went straight into the vault itself. Yeah, they knew exactly what they were doing. And then they got in there and they used that special lead forged hammer heads like a sledge that was made out of lead and it was made a point like a bill, almost like a duck bill or something, a pointy little so when they hit the safety deposit boxes the locking mechanism, it would knock the locking mechanism out, just take the cylinders straight out and they just rip them out and they just pull them directly out. They had five hundred safety deposit boxes that they had opened and emptied. And you got five hundred. That's crazy, seven or eight when people are going to be coming Monday morning. They were racing, you know, they're racing the sun because they were like a day behind. Yeah, they were literally a day behind because Saturday didn't work out. But yeah, five hundred freaking boxes. Dude. They're big. They're like they're like almost three foot deep cap longer than a metal filing cap. Yeah, they're like three foot deep and almost is wide. Yeah, and they're just narrow the height had oh the jewels, the diamonds, all the stewerl and gold, silver and gold talking coins because that was an that fluent area because remember they when they was a rich area. When they found the car that they those guys Joe cars, what they called they called it a Joe Schmoe car. And what a Joe Schmo car was is when you would go to do a heist, you would buy a car legally and you would put under a false name and that's your Joe Schmo. So that's how that that was a Joe Schmoe car. Wasn't a stolen vehicle. No, it was totally legal, totally just under the name was just Joe Schmod so clean. Yeah, oh dude, they were. They had they had every facet covered. Charlie Brockle, fuck them, he's the dumb ass, because I want to I want to sit on this for a minute, because I love the beauty of this because at that time, you could just buy a new car. Yeah, under a false name. Yeah, you're paying cash. It's real easy, right car. They even bought a fu boat, that's how out of there. Yeah, they put it a boat and the total in the back of the was it a fi It was a fishing boat or something, just a little just a regular one, probably fourteen or whatever. They threw all the loot inside there and they towed it across the United States. The Louisiana started fencing the ship. Yeah, that's when they forgot the bear of bonds. They started fencing there and got ahold of the guys, the Sasha Sasha, son of a gun sucker, Dicka Luciferno. I don't freaking know any Ao. Sasha was a badass. He probably had like a pinky ring, Like a motherfucker. It'd smack you on the forehead when you fucked up, just with this pinky ring. It'll leave like seventeen stone mark in your forehead. But yeah, so they were they were getting rid of it. They bopped themselves time. I mean, just eliminating certain steps that aren't red flags to the cops. And I guess the only would be like fraud in a way instead of like grand theft. You know, you're eliminating you of your sentence when you get busted. Basically, you're being fucking smart for sure, no no doubt. That's the beauty. These these were top notch except for Charlie trust Man, just a man named Charlie Chuck or Charles. Yeah. So yeah, they got the fence and they bought themselves. They what they did, and that's a lot of work. He said. They were sweating their asses off, They're digging holes, they're blowing ship up, humping a fence with all these damn you knowing bags and all their their gear. Dude, they had a banks, they had a stlene chorch so they had to have oxygen and what is the other gas? I don't even Yeah, so they were like the cops are checking like all the hospitals for like oxygen because the rebar reinforce rebar concrete was reinforcing rebar. I was lying, it's not Sasha Banks. Hold on, bitch, We're all about credibility on this show. I'm trying facts, man, facts, Maybe drink less vino. No more that he's a professional wrestler banana hammock style or leggings Sasha Banks Instagram. So no, no, no, no, no, come on, let's move on from that. So anyway, so defence named Sasha. No, he's dead. Nobody even knows this. Yeah, this guy, forget about him. I just shout out to Harry Barber. Sorry, your parents were assholes. Name you Harry Barber, both of you brothers, Ronald, that's all right, that's all right, Harry Barber. Dude, it's like a the words man, like Dick Trickle. Who the fuck? Why do you do that? Why is it even? Why would you let your son go by? Dick? But he was probably like Dick Trickle the third. It's been a long running fucking joke. Michael Jackson kids name blanket, but that wouldn't matter. Come on, man, Dick Trickle dude, Yeah, that's that just sticks in my mind. It's like a green dischard at our age. We get I gotta you gotta shake it, green dischar You shake it, you put it away, you walk away, then it explodes again. Yeah, it's trouble man, You're in trouble. You get a Dick prostates. So no, anyway, we're a little unhinge this episode, but it's a good episode though. It's actually really good contact because this is a not a lot of people. I don't know why it's not been warm pop culture as far as movies and ship. Just late nineteen they pop a movie out about this has been around for fifty one years, yeahin seventy two. Yeah, I was born in seventy one. I look, was born in seventy two, So I know, it's what the fuck, but a sense of pride, My heart wells up with pride. The way, the way you gotta look at it now is how things were vindicated back in the day where you had the you didn't have the internet, you didn't have no so I mean they didn't even leave fingerprints until the fucking dishwasher. Yeah, I know, they wiped that whole condo. Deasa spray it with alcohol? Was that what they did? That's what they were saying, Phil Phil Christopher said they would spray everything down with bottles of alcohol like squirt bottles. Yeah, they'll wipe it all down wherever they were at. Because the cops were even like, holy fuck, no prints, Yeah nothing, FBI was the FBI, I guess. Yeah, So they forgot to turn the fucking dishwasher on when they left, and they got four Layton prints. Yeah, isn't that something. It was a new technology, that's what they're saying, this new technology. They probably weren't used to it. They left all their dirty dishes and somebody was supposed to hit the on button when they went out the door, and they just forgot or I don't know, I don't know how to use it. How that got overlooked? Four prints? Then douchebag mcdoushey face, Yeah, chucky Chucky. When they were going out to do the job, he was supposed to bring to fake IDs. They got to the airport, Yeah, it was too late. Jil Christopher said, hey, where's the IDs? And he says, oh, I forgot them? And they're always probably fucking doing smack. Never trust a fucking crook that does drugs. Yeah, come on, Charlie fuck And then he rolls on them. Yeah, be a man. He's a fucking hard he's like the muscle on a lot of jobs. But then they're like, hey, we got you. You're gonna do twenty you should roll He fucking rolls. Yeah. He was like in his thirties that was too easy. Yeah. Fuck everybody else is like, I don't know what you're talking about, don't you got you flying out there, dumb asses because you use your real driver's license. Like okay again, Charlie, Yeah that's all Charlie. Dude. Well, so what it comes down to is, even though there's honor amongst thieves, it's only certain thieves. You would you roll over me? You rolled me over? The fuck I'd be like fuck that, dude. Were different things, I'm not a little bitch ass. Yeah, it's gonna be. It would definitely be a uh maybe when I was good looking, I wouldn't because I have a family. It would be a hard decision, but I would still do it. I wouldn't fucking roll And you know what, my wife would probably love me even more because of it, even though I'm away. I mean, she gets to enjoy herself. Yeah, she can watch she can watch a Walking Dead whenever she won. She doesn't have to. We're shot. Where's Joker at? Oh? Yeah, that's right. He's in the basement, passed out with puke all over his clothes. Oh well, then he's okay, he's Oh so it's Sunday, Then it's Sunday. The best story ever is I don't know whose wedding it was, but you had your limit. You probably ate. You probably drank sixty miles an hour if you do everything. Sure a six packs gone in like half an hour, which you on a hot day, and then you're like, I gotta go, I throw up. But then so you hit your limit of food and drink. There's probably a lot of hard stuff wedding. It might have been somebody you related to, probably, but you went into the wrong car and passed out. You thought it was like your sister Laurie's car or something. Some dudes like, get the fuck out of my car. Man. You're like, it's a fucking this is my sister's car or something. I don't even remember who told me this story. I think I was remember it. I don't know where I was, but I was like, no, that's classic. That's something I did. I mean for sure, that's like, dude, that was a real quick not to go too far from this. I was done with this. We kind of fucked this episode up. So I'm working for a construction company and actually the one I'm working for now, and it was rain and or no, I take it back. It was snowing. So we had a day during the week. It was like a Wednesday and everybody can get to work. We get to work, it starts coming down like crazy to snow. So my boss calls the day. So we go day drinking and we go to this little bar in McDonald, Ohio, and dude, we're drinking. Yeah, that went to McDonald Yeah, because it was right over the brink in Mayberry. Why don't you go to fucking the Royal Gardens because at that time he's right there, a silver nugget that's right there. Yeah, we were on Alsley Road at the time. McDonald's such a trap. But anyway, so we got this little bar and I drink, drink, drink, drink, drink fast, doing shop blah blah blah. The next thing, I hang out with the bourbon boys. Somebody's like, ay, males go out and smug a joint. I'm like yeah, and I know better than to drink first then smoke because it's a recipe for disaster because I get six beers in me, get a nice little beer bud, and then I have smoke pot and then I'm like, wha, the world spit it up good. With them. Everybody the whole world knowing about Shud Grooves is good. Well he knows. No, it was all his crews. Man, come on, it was all his crew all right, are we being loud? No? What did you say shuesh for? Okay, I mean everybody's good. So anyways, I never mentioned who I was with. I said a construction company, the one I'm with currently, outside of that company, regardless, regardless. We got in the back of this dude. He had an old like eighty two or it might have been earlier than that, Bronco Ford Broncos, one of the big ones. OJ. Yeah, the old O J style. So it was a white one I want to buy. We're up in McKinley Heights and we're in the back roads of mckillley Heights and we're fish tailing everywhere, just having because you know, we had like four get out and the yeah, so nobody wants to get out, so we're spinning down the road. He gets out of control, this dude, Marty, and we spin out and we hit this ditch and his back end goes up on top of a fire hydrant and we're starting. The wheels are not touching the ground. Dude. So, and that's the rear end. So it's rear wheel drive. So we're in there. I'm passed out in the back of his vehicle. Find I am passed out in the back of his vehicle, like sleeping on the back, like like the bench like it there's three row seating because remember they had an old school and had the bench seat weigh in the back. But I was in the back just like holding on for dear life. Just didn't want to puke. And dude, so I pass out. These dudes get out. A cop comes. The guy who was driving our car knew the cops. Cops like, hey, look, get get let's get this off the fire hydrant, get you on a tow truck and get you a hell out of here. You lost control because it was cold out and the roads were bad. He said, all right, cool. So they throw the truck on the the the the tow truck and uh they got front wheels up. They start pulling away. Everyone starts yelling way away you were I'm still wake me up and take me out of his vehicle. You are hard to wake up to. You start throwing fist. Give me to fuck alone. Dude, you were sleeping on the curve belt from my townhouse. Yeah, your bachelor party. Yeah, I got drunk, and dude, it was everything to get get your ass there. It probably caught. It probably took Brett at that point. Yeah, it probably took us fucking three hours to get you home from the bar. It was just like, dude, please, I was like, I'm fucking done. He's sleeping out here and Brett's with them. Just let me get this sad kid. It's like the thinker, but with two hands holding your hand. You know, I'm the old people would tell us when we said the old men, be like, you can get the piles. See. But that was the back in the back in the day when I used to be afraid to throw up throw My problem is second until the next morning. And it's just like, ah, so Phil, Christopher Amol Denzio and the boys, you guys were the ship. Thank you for the for the thanks for the for the story. I mean, honestly, I mean no, I'm saying that those guys thank those guys for the story. I mean, you know, Shawn's related to all these guys, jokers, related to these cats. Yeah, these guys are all my ex anybody with the last name Joseph, Christopher or you know they're Italian. Forget about it. It's a vegetable monos mongool Gates. Bell was such a beautiful face, a chin August probably like what a bunch of fucking here's a good folk life. So hey, catch us next time, Yeah, for sure, I need it. Thanks again for listening. Yeah, this is a little different. We were having fun, but it's a really great episode that like really own it almost. Yeah, it's like hits us in the heart because these are the type of type of dudes by ten twenty years we grew up with other kids. They were their attention. They were like Robin Hoods back in the seventies. Honestly, they really were. You never ask them, but you knew the stories guys like this. Yeah, I mean that's like asking your uncle about Vietnam. Same thing. I mean, these guys, you know, they have a secrecy when he gets drunk about it. Yeah, exactly, all right, all right, So hey, if you've got some stories about this, or you just want to tell us were dumbasses and real like juvenile, you can send it to you can send it to Anthony's Hairy spicyas my fucking bastards. It's a spice to meet the ball. But seriously, you can send you can get ahold of us. You want to tell us a story, you want to tell us. We're fucking sexy, that's for sure. You know that ship's right. Yeah, we sound sexy. Thank god you can't see us. We will go and get some cameras and get on it. You have a huge heart. It's white limbs. It's a huge heart. So which podcast is this? This is Chasing Bad podcast at gmail dot com is our email address. This is Chasing Bad, This is Joker and that is mixed strange. So if you want to talk to us individually, we'll still get it. But I'll definitely tell them that if I get any bad man. 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