[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello, hello, hello, psst psst psst
[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, listen up everyone, this is EP 26.
[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Two Sex.
[00:00:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Rockets and Sex Magic, baby.
[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Jack Parsons.
[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds like a store.
[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Rockets and Sex Magic.
[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So, that's Joker, Strange.
[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: What up?
[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_01]: As always.
[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We had a couple weeks half.
[00:01:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot of family in town.
[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Life happens.
[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of stuff.
[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Meeting cousins, we're practically, I mean you guys don't know this, but we're practically, our families are intertwined since before our birth.
[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is convenient for us because we became, I guess, friends through that.
[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_01]: A, and then B, like whenever we go to your family get togethers, I already know everybody.
[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It was nice, we had a wedding this weekend.
[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_01]: No, and he hasn't slept with any of my cousins or anything so no dirty business.
[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Not yet.
[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_02]: Not yet, baby.
[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Not that you know about.
[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Not that you know about.
[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a very handsome man, I gotta keep an eye on him.
[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so it's just fantastic.
[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you guys have your weddings and stuff too, but some of the young kids are getting married now.
[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Now we're getting older and you know.
[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: We got duties and responsibilities.
[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He said duty.
[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Duties.
[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But we are back.
[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: And we're gonna hit Jack Parsons.
[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Jack Parsons.
[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And we did a show, Alistair Crowley, not too long ago.
[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And he has ties into this.
[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_01]: As well as, we're probably gonna hit L. Ron Hubbard, right?
[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: He's L. Ron, not Ron L.
[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_01]: L. Ron.
[00:02:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Superman's dad.
[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: D. Nice.
[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_01]: A. Ron.
[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He's all up in this biz too.
[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think one day we're just gonna smash the three together.
[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, tell stories.
[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_01]: To a multi...
[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Just their relationships maybe or the magic they were trying to do because these guys were obviously...
[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: What? Thelma?
[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: What do they call them? Thelma Lemmick?
[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Lemmites or whatever.
[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Thelamites?
[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever it is.
[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That crazy guy. The wickedest man on earth.
[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The hermetic order of the Golden Dawn.
[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_01]: That's where he started.
[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we need to check that out too.
[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_01]: There's so much.
[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Well that was all Crowley.
[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well he was part of that when he was at Oxford or Cambridge or wherever the fuck he was.
[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever them English people do.
[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So we all know what type of guy that was.
[00:03:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And these... Jack Parsons was the head of the most important lodge or temple or I don't even...
[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Church.
[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Alistair Crowley's church.
[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, he was the grand poobop.
[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_02]: He was the poobop.
[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_02]: He was hanging out with Mr. Cunningham.
[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_02]: The grand poobop at the...
[00:03:47] [SPEAKER_02]: What was the name of the lodge?
[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_02]: The grand poobop.
[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_02]: They would hang out at the...
[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck, I can't remember it.
[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I remember he was a grand poobop.
[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He became the grand poobop one time.
[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_01]: They wore like the...
[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Moroccan hats.
[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Looked like Babu.
[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Babu from the Moroccan mouse.
[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He wore that little hat.
[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Those were like the...
[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The old school.
[00:04:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The old school cartoons.
[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Those were great though, dude.
[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: The aardvarks.
[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I swear to God.
[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's so funny because one of the kids texts something like,
[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Get my man Bernie Sanders out of your mouth.
[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the group text with all the girls.
[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_01]: The nieces and the nephew.
[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, all Knicks kids.
[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And Em was like,
[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: This is who Uncle Mick thinks
[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Bernie Sanders sounds like.
[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: The aardvark.
[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The anteater or whatever the hell he is.
[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_01]: From the Pink Panther?
[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I swear to God he did it.
[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_01]: His voice.
[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: He's perfect.
[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like an old Jewish guy.
[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Money bad for you, but good for me.
[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the bear.
[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Jack Parsons.
[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_02]: Involved with a lot of these guys.
[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Fell into the beliefs of Alistair Crowley.
[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Crowley was in the 20s.
[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Early 90s, Victorian age.
[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But he even said he invoked because he was a big fan of this magazine called Amazing Stories.
[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was like Jules Verne and Poe and who's the other guy?
[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_01]: War of the Worlds and all these things.
[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So it was science fiction in the Victorian age in the 20s, 30s.
[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Those guys were on a hash too, man.
[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were taking a good lot of men.
[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Like mixing opium, drinkable opium with alcohol.
[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how you kept your wife in line.
[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Crowley, that dude, he would smoke the hash.
[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fucking heroin.
[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He was a junkie.
[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Fleecing people.
[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But so even as a kid he said that he invoked the devil.
[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Like in high school or something.
[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But it scared the shit out of him so he put it away evidently.
[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But he comes back, he comes back.
[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And then he comes back, yeah.
[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean he bounced back, dude.
[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Well once they figured out that rocket science was something that was going to be.
[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and they weren't even allowed to call it rocket science.
[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Because when you thought rockets you thought science fiction.
[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: And like magicians or fireworks or rockets.
[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So they were making it.
[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So they were like, okay, this is jet propulsion.
[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's what it was.
[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Gives it its credence.
[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Which sounds better.
[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but now we know everything's rockets.
[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's not rocket science.
[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I call Matt Pecker the rocket.
[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not rocket science trying to figure out that it's not rocket science.
[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_01]: When you see your dog's dick out you're like put that red rocket away baby.
[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like a tube of lipstick that's been used a lot.
[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Put that lipstick away.
[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah he was a trust fund kid until I mean he came from a wealthy family on the west coast somewhere.
[00:07:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Pasadena or LA or something.
[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_01]: So and he was beat up a lot because he's one of those kids that had his own laboratory.
[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_01]: His grandparents dote it on him.
[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Spent like a lot of money.
[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like getting him a tutor or a science guy to help him build his little projects.
[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: He had his own library.
[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: His erector set.
[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He probably had the knickers and you know one of those high socks and curls.
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Like Shirley Temple or something how they did to those poor boys back then.
[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Made them look like sailors.
[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.
[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah so and he got beat up a lot because he was effeminate.
[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Effeminate.
[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah here I go.
[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I've had a couple beers I won't be able to talk.
[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_01]: But and also they dropped him off with a chauffeur dropped him off at school so he would get massively beaten.
[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They beat me mercifully.
[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: What is that?
[00:08:07] Mercifully.
[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Mercilessly.
[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Mercifilously.
[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Mercilessly.
[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever man.
[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: He got his ass kicked because he was a nerd.
[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_02]: He was a fucking limp wrist.
[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He talked like Richard Simmons all the time and had limp wrists.
[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So they didn't like that shit back in the 20s.
[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: He was doing aerobics and fucking tights and shit.
[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But so then they started sending they sent him to college you know.
[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Cambridge.
[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Rich kid.
[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Cambridge.
[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You go to Harvard or Cambridge?
[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know.
[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was at like Berkeley or something.
[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_02]: He went to a big school.
[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: One of them guys.
[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But then the depression hit and as most families at that time they got hit hard
[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and they didn't have the money to send them anymore.
[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So what he did and he even in high school they were tearing apart fireworks him and his buddy interesting enough.
[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: The kid he met in like grade school or middle school I guess.
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Would stick up for him and yeah the one beating a kid and they like he was interested in science.
[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They were like just nerds but he was a tougher nerd I guess maybe he's just a bigger bodied nerd.
[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Edward Foreman.
[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah there you go.
[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah I guess you can speak speak to that guy.
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_01]: If you want.
[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But so they were doing experiments in the backyard blowing shit up mixing glue and gunpowder.
[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_01]: From fireworks and making rockets and which I bet you a lot of that a lot of things spawned from that probably like that.
[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: With like well obviously the jet propulsion JPL.
[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah the JPL derived.
[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean all these guys and they weren't they couldn't go to school anymore so they recruited.
[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: What was it.
[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Cal Cal Tech or.
[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: No it was California Institute of Technology.
[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: OK.
[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So very prestigious and they were hanging out with some of the scientists.
[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And they refer to the grad students or whatever they recruited so they could get.
[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_01]: And they came up and they called themselves the suicide squad.
[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Given the dangerous nature of their work.
[00:10:06] Yeah.
[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_01]: And they had to move because it was it was pretty dangerous they had to move out to these floodplains and shit around Los Angeles just to do their experiments.
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: They were probably smoking a Kif and you know blowing shit up.
[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_01]: How fun would that be did.
[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That would be awesome.
[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: But obviously there's a lot of talent.
[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We do that now.
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean what the hell.
[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_01]: We do that give us some fireworks and reefer and we're good bro.
[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Guns.
[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah guns.
[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_02]: To help.
[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Twelve gauge and melons.
[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah there you go.
[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I love melons.
[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like melons too I wouldn't shoot those melons though.
[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: No I'd shoot all over them melons.
[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit.
[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_02]: Silly shooting of the melons.
[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_02]: This is why women don't listen to our show at all.
[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a bunch of dudes from Australia and Canada and Southwest out in the desert.
[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Conox in the office.
[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Motherfuckers think just like me.
[00:11:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like shooting guns getting drugs smoking a Kif and blowing shit up.
[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Talking about boobs.
[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean he obviously had a lot of talent.
[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Just didn't have the money to go to school anymore.
[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But that talent and that genius led to putting men on the moon.
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean it was not back then it was nothing more than science fiction.
[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: 20s that's the way they looked at it.
[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You told me a story about a professor that said a Goddard Robert Goddard.
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean yeah.
[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Professor Robert Goddard proposed that in 1920 that one day a rocket would reach
[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: the moon and he was widely criticized for by the press.
[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: The New York Times.
[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The paper was actually forced to issue a retraction in 1969 as Apollo 11 was on
[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: its way to the moon.
[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking you know at least they did it.
[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: He was still alive.
[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: At least they did it.
[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean at least they apologize.
[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: They wouldn't do it now unless under threat of litigation.
[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_01]: No they would just say that you know we don't we don't identify as rockets.
[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean.
[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: They want to have rockets can be in sex.
[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Rockets can be anything.
[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Or gender fluidity and just because of their phallic shape doesn't mean women can
[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_01]: have rockets too.
[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody should ask Eddie Murphy.
[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: We got tangled up with that male prostitute.
[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Poor Eddie.
[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I like Eddie too.
[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_02]: He's the best.
[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Even the new.
[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: He knocked up one of the spice girls.
[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Scary Spice that hot black chick.
[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Tasty.
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Scary.
[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Caramel chocolate.
[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_02]: What do I feel at home?
[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Robinson's neighborhood.
[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Was that what it was?
[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah look little boys and girls an ear and there's still an earring in it.
[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll take that.
[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_02]: But oh boys and girls those are sirens.
[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Robinson's got to go.
[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic you know.
[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Look up the old SNLs.
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Eddie Murphy.
[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Anything with Eddie Murphy and it's fantastic.
[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's fucking hilarious.
[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Like when Buckwheat got shot.
[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh shit that was like huge.
[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That was like basically off of like Dallas right?
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: JR got shot.
[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So funny though just great writers back then.
[00:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah we watched them.
[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I think actors too those guys pulled it off because they were funny.
[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Well it's not so much institutionalized comedy or social justice comedy.
[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: They could just do whatever they wanted and everybody knew they were joking.
[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes that's the whole point of it.
[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: They're just fucking words.
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to watch?
[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't fucking watch.
[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah if you get bent out of shape then that's kind of your hangout.
[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I love the 70s because all those shows like All in the Family, The Jeffersons,
[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: they were all geared towards racism and all that but you know kind of making light of it
[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_01]: so that we wouldn't be so high strung about it.
[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: We need to be able to talk about it.
[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah that's the thing.
[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: If it leads to social problems in our society then if we can come together with comedy,
[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean that's one facet of it that's fantastic.
[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean shit man.
[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody was getting rich off of it back then.
[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I mean.
[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't matter what nationality you were.
[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Look at Prior dude.
[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Red Fox was the dirtiest effort out there.
[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Him and Lenny Bruce were probably the ones that were just like.
[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But you got to realize too that those guys were in Hollywood when it was run by other people.
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know now those guys didn't take shit so they didn't get sucked into it.
[00:14:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Now look at Hollywood today.
[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Are you saying the Zionists aren't still in control of media?
[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Well what I'm saying is these guys, those guys didn't put up with that shit
[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_01]: and the people today do because they scare them into it.
[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_01]: You know it's just a tougher way to.
[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It gives you a thick skin and you need thick skin to roam the world.
[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to be hidden in your basement afraid to go outside.
[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: So part yeah nobody wants to hear this shit.
[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just us old guys.
[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah but I mean.
[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But like nevertheless like that Suicide Squad.
[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_02]: They realized that Parsons was a genius.
[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: At creating rocket fuel and a delicate process that involved mixing chemicals
[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: in exactly the right amounts so they would be explosive yet controllable.
[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So as we go further on you'll see what we were talking about earlier.
[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But versions of his fuel that he developed were later used by NASA.
[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah there you go.
[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Saturn so you know what?
[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And he wasn't around to say hey you guys stole that from me.
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my recipe.
[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: What he died at 37.
[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah in 59.
[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah 52.
[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_01]: 52 I mean yeah.
[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So during World War II he basically was making a ton of money because his little suicide group turned into JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratories
[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: which is a government black budget frickin there to this day.
[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of weird shit going on there.
[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I think it's all due to space travel extraterrestrial.
[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_01]: How far have we really gone?
[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: We did Gary McKinnon he's like yeah there's extraterrestrial.
[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: There's non-terrestrial officers and you know terrestrial officers.
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a list.
[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Well we never got to see it but I believe him because he's on the spectrum and he's you know they always tell the truth.
[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: He's a smart guy.
[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he is smart.
[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I wish I was on the spectrum.
[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be richer.
[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_01]: I would I would be probably not so much of a procrastinator.
[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but so I mean absolute genius.
[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he also gained notoriety.
[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean like this picture he's a young dude.
[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He got some crazy hair.
[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a pipe bomb in his hand.
[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: He recreated a pipe bomb.
[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: There's just this huge in L.A.
[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you know L.A. back in like the day the 30s and 40s.
[00:17:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I don't want to speak but it's the truth they were pretty corrupt the cops and shit.
[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Well everybody was.
[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah they had crime out there just like New York just like Chicago.
[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You figure you had you had pro-opition.
[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Gangsters.
[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It was all and that's when like the East Coast moved out to the West Coast.
[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah they had to make their money.
[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: And then they moved to Las Vegas went out more.
[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You know they figured hey if we're going to do this shit we might as well do it in nice weather.
[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It's yeah it's like when Hollywood moved out because the Warner Brothers started in like Youngstown.
[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah went to New York and then yeah and then bounced around.
[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah ended up like anything else.
[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean if you're going to do your job you might as well do where it's 80 degrees sunny and you can get them all year round.
[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And you have and you have your choice of places to go all these destination sites you can film.
[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Heck yeah.
[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You can go to Northern California and it looks like it's got trees.
[00:18:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You got the Hoover Dam you got the Grand Canyon you got all these beautiful landmarks.
[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You know wonders of the world in the United States.
[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Westerns were popular.
[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Hell you could create Cleopatra's Alexandria out there.
[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Right exactly.
[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_01]: In the desert.
[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: So so there was a bombing and was a police officer that killed another police officer put a bomb in his car.
[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like gang line gangland killing style and he recreated it and was a star witness.
[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And they show a picture of him holding you know you turn the key.
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_01]: And you can see the wires is just hot and yeah positive and negative.
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just hitting it.
[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah once it hits.
[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and boom it's like what you make a pipe bomb.
[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And they went out in the desert and blew it up so he became pretty well known across the country because that was a big story.
[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So they put this guy away.
[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Corruption and murder and all these things.
[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And this this kind of comes back we'll circle back to that in the end of this episode.
[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Because I think it's pretty telling on what happens.
[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So he gets real alert.
[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: JPL and what was the other company that they started these guys.
[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So essentially this other company wasn't so much rockets as it was short runways and assisting prop planes to get up in the air.
[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So the use of short runways.
[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah you could be shorter like you see modern like the Brits always have these jump jets you know the Harriers but they can take off and they have this little ski jump off the front of their.
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So they can have smaller aircraft carrier.
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: These long massive runways like we had.
[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_01]: But so you could launch instead of catapult driven at the time you could launch like two almost simultaneously with those jet pack.
[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty wild to see.
[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Without the catapult.
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_01]: One and two.
[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a ramp.
[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And then you attach these and they're reusable or they're expendable.
[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: So they made a ton of money.
[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You know the war in the Pacific was all island jumping.
[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You could eventually get a you know once you took it over with Marines you could get an airfield strip on an island.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But we had all these aircraft carriers that absolutely to keep the front and put the fight to the Japanese you had to keep going.
[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And you needed those aircraft carriers.
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So that would be like instrument you could get bombers be 29s like do little the raid on Tokyo when they and then eventually the that's a big figure how big that those were like land bombers.
[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Air Force.
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They're getting them off on these short runways with jet propulsion.
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Which is the same just as the same concept like with Apollo and all that they get it up there once they release the tanks.
[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You just start to dispose the right sections.
[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean they did that until they came up with the challengers.
[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The reusable.
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the airplane style.
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:21:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You can reenter the atmosphere.
[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why when you think about still needed them booster rockets to get you there.
[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_01]: But right.
[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean that's just I mean they wanted you there and that's Jack Parson shit.
[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That was all his rockets all his technology.
[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course the you know you have Warner von Braun or whatever but well there was those two.
[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_01]: They were an enemy at the time.
[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So we didn't have their tech.
[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_01]: We had to come up with our own solid fuel rockets.
[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Well and that's another point to where well let's talk about that in a minute with his death.
[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_01]: But Aerojet Engineering Corporation was the other company.
[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We got to stop because he does need because they don't give him any of this credit like he was part of that group.
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no.
[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You know that's NASA won't tell you oh yeah Jack Parsons.
[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Who's you never seen in a history book.
[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_01]: No it's a shame really but he was a fuck.
[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank God.
[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's here's when the Internet he was going rogue man.
[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's where technology and the Internet comes in handy where it's a good thing.
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Where you know you can you actually get and there again too.
[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean we can dig into history from other points of view and probably some more obscure stuff to.
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And well you have different people's point of views people who are maybe not directly there but were directly involved with those other people.
[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You know just like anything else like when somebody says oh that person never would have committed suicide.
[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You come to find out 40 years later that they were killed.
[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah it's a narrative.
[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah it just depends on.
[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's essentially how they pushed him out of these government these companies that were feeding the government sounds like they just bought them out.
[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They did but very very very very lower than what he really deserved as a you either take this or you get nothing.
[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's 200 grand.
[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Our now our board of directors says go after so we're going to take your million dollar stake and give you one hundred and fifty thousand dollars and take it and be happy and fucking move on.
[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_01]: It just goes to show you have orgies and go worship the devil because you're not a stable person.
[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So we can't have you involved anymore is essentially how he got real good about well which is kind of understandable to a certain degree but they made it was probably they probably made it to be worse than what it was.
[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know just to make them look bad.
[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Just like you know it's almost national security though at a level you can't press just like today.
[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah you can't have some nut job though like he was I kind of like him dude.
[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but I mean we really don't like the worshiping like ritual shit man.
[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_01]: You know I'm down with the with the hazes but man a dude is interesting.
[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he led a crazy life for 37 years.
[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like a rock star.
[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah he lived a lot in a little bit of time.
[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I did.
[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah but and then I mean I mean we talked about his early life pulp science fiction mags and right that kind of built you know.
[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I mean they said that's what they said the same time he was pioneering scientific evidence to put a man on the moon developments he was also engaging in activities that newspapers referred to him as a madman.
[00:24:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Because while he was developing rocket science itself persons have been attending meetings of the ordo template or the end to the OTO led by the notorious British occultist.
[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Our boy there.
[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Mr Crowley.
[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: What went wrong in your head.
[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Mr Crowley.
[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, stop before we get.
[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna get flagged.
[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Trademark.
[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Copyright.
[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_02]: Well we can do you know we're seven fun couple American boys having fun with Ozzy Osborne.
[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Oz man he'd appreciate it.
[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Randy Rhodes.
[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_01]: American badass.
[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_01]: American short as fuck but you wouldn't know it.
[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because he wore high heels.
[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's stuffed.
[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_02]: He had a red nose and he had a red nose from doing cocaine.
[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_01]: A deviated septum.
[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_01]: His septum was deviated.
[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was the second band.
[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Deviated.
[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So when we get our band together we're gonna call it deviated septum.
[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we talked about him being bullied.
[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was a bit.
[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_02]: But he like fell into Aleister Crowley's following teachings and you know he was obviously Crowley was known as the wickedest man in the world at one time.
[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And it's funny because we touched upon the Jack Parsons because he became like the poobah.
[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_01]: The grand poobah.
[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of the orient of whatever it is, the lodge.
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: The OTO.
[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he thought that would be the most powerful lodge to really springboard his themalic.
[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So tying it back to Aleister Crowley and Parsons was the head dude in 1940 or whatever.
[00:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well you know it's funny because like their creeds were OTO and Crowley, their creeds were based fulfilling individual desires, particularly sexual ones.
[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And then communing with the devil.
[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And so Parsons and these other guys did partake in some strange rituals including eating cakes made of menstrual blood.
[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes I said that.
[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Eating cakes of menstrual blood.
[00:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He earned his red wings.
[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were talking about this.
[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to do it the old fashioned way.
[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_01]: You got to earn your red wings bro.
[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Do your incantation and go muff diving.
[00:27:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Get yourself some cake.
[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Get that hairy triangle on him.
[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Eat that cake boy.
[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_02]: That's a black forest cherry cake.
[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Get some hair pie with that.
[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah boy.
[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Red velvet hair pie.
[00:27:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever had red wings?
[00:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I have too.
[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I've earned my red wings.
[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I was really drunk and I was worn but I was like fucking them.
[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I just was kind of.
[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So much iron.
[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Tastes like liver.
[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: You just had a tip.
[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah right.
[00:27:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I just put the tip in front of me.
[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Your full face was fucking Ronald McDonald.
[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You came up and you looked like Ronald McDonald.
[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_02]: I just looked like a lion coming off a gazelle.
[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_02]: My beard all red.
[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I was just looking around.
[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody want to fuck with this?
[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'd be like, growing at the other guys who were trying to come near it.
[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Slit your boner and say okay baby it's your turn.
[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Get some of that blood.
[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_02]: So then like you said, Parsons did become the west coast leader of the OTO in the 40s
[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and corresponded directly with Crowley himself.
[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they both were too.
[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: He was instructing them on how to open portholes and we get to kind of get into this a little bit.
[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody wants to dive into this too much.
[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like come on man.
[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I've heard podcasts, I've read shit and then these two guys were like butt fucking each other,
[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: doing rituals.
[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the one where they were in the desert and they never closed it,
[00:28:46] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of people are like that's why we have aliens at Roswell.
[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we have this and that.
[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Just fucking idiots ran.
[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: They fucking hightailed it after they opened it.
[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Just like fucking Alistair Crowley in that Loch Ness fucking mansion.
[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well that's like even with Parsons, he used his money from his rocketry business,
[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_01]: bought a mansion in Pasadena which was a den of hedonism.
[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like the Playboy Mansion before the Playboy Mansion.
[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: But it allowed him to explore his sexual adventures like bedding his wife's 17 year old sister
[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and holding cult-like orgies.
[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know, and you can rent a room from them there as long as you denounce God.
[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that Hotel California?
[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It might be. Holy shit.
[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy dude.
[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You need Isaac Wasop on here talking about that shit.
[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You can check out any time you like but you can never fucking leave bro.
[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Damn.
[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right bruh.
[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_01]: How many really badass guitar solos are in that song?
[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Well they said that if you look at that album cover,
[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and when you open it up, they're inside of a mansion and you can see up in the one corner
[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a guy standing there.
[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_01]: They say that that's supposed to be Alistair Crowley.
[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck with him.
[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody.
[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Motley Crue, Ozzy Osbourne.
[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_01]: There's even bands that are like, yeah, Crowley heads man.
[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Well remember like you were saying about Motley Crue?
[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_01]: They had the, what was his name?
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The little character.
[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the character guy.
[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Alistair or something.
[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, something like that.
[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, because your brother was like huge into Motley Crue.
[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, back in the day for sure.
[00:30:23] Yeah.
[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Shit man.
[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Rockets baby.
[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Rockets and sex magic.
[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so after the cult like Gorgies,
[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Frank Molina's,
[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a strange angel.
[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what, a biography?
[00:30:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Frank Molina's wife Lillian said in a 1996 interview with Benjamin Zibbit
[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_01]: that the mansion was like walking into a Fellini movie.
[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Women were walking around in diophanous togas and weird makeup.
[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Some dressed up like animals, like a costume party.
[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Molina shrugged off his partner's eccentricities,
[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_01]: telling Lillian, Jack is into all kinds of things.
[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And the 20s were pretty wild.
[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we didn't have like any ratings back there for movies and some of them talkies,
[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_01]: especially in Germany, nudism everywhere, you know, debauchery on the big screen.
[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, they weren't afraid to.
[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But like over in Europe, though, they don't hide from their sexuality.
[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It was very wide open.
[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they don't.
[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't.
[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they'll walk around naked.
[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_01]: They don't give a shit.
[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's your natural.
[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't even think the flappers around here in the 20s wore bras, man.
[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Could you imagine that coming out of Victorian age?
[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, roaring 20s, baby.
[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_02]: You go for this fulling clonet, women clothes from their neck down to their their feet.
[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, son, you're getting giant jerseys.
[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You get more than side boobies.
[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: This chick's walking around, you know, with no damn no damn.
[00:31:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But do you think that's like the 90s?
[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think so.
[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I think the 20s were probably more wild than certain scenes than the 60s.
[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, for sure.
[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Man, but you didn't have.
[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you have?
[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you didn't have the media cover.
[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You have, you know, kind of sill in the I guess you would.
[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm sure everybody ended up with everybody had to fucking clap.
[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Cephalous, Cephalous, crabs, all kinds of shit going on.
[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They still got it today, dude.
[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_01]: They were saying like there's an uptick in not us, though, in Chlamydia in the elderly.
[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because of Viagra and the Dolphins.
[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's hilarious.
[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Get it, Gramps.
[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_01]: There's some Viagra buddy.
[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But even though a low blue chew, you can sponsor us.
[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_02]: But even though that Frank Molina's wife or Frank Molina had shrugged it off,
[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_02]: and told his wife Jackson to, you know, a little bit of everything, the government, the U.S.
[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: government was what couldn't couldn't overlook Parsons activities that easily.
[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_02]: So they say that the FBI began to surveil Parsons more closely and decided that his quirks were a liability to national security.
[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_02]: So in 1944, he was paid off for his shares in Aerojet and essentially spelled from the field that he had helped develop.
[00:33:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And so without work, Parsons buried himself even deeper in the occult.
[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Then everything kind of turned for him.
[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: He became acquainted with science fiction writer and future Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.
[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Scientology has a lot of the principles of Crowley in it.
[00:33:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about this before in the Crowley episode.
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But there's so many like even these big Hollywood actors who actresses who were involved.
[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_01]: They're all coming out and just talk about Leah Remy.
[00:33:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. She was so I loved her.
[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_01]: King of Queens. Yeah.
[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. I wanted a piece of that so bad.
[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. She's sexy.
[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I love you, baby.
[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_01]: She's sexy. She's never going to listen to this.
[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_01]: My nieces might though.
[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So.
[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: But according to Hugh Urban's The Church of Scientology,
[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_01]: A History of a New Religion, published by Princeton University Press in 2011,
[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Parsons wrote the Book of Babylon in which he claimed that he and Hubbard carried out rituals together.
[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_01]: This ritual Parsons claimed succeeded in summoning a magical moon child who would be mightier than all the kings of the earth.
[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Then Urban writes Parsons, Hubbard and Parsons girlfriend Betty Northrup formed a partnership called Allied Enterprises
[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_01]: to make money buying and selling yachts.
[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Parsons came to believe that Hubbard Northrup had taken his life savings and run off together.
[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So he tried to summon yet another demon to punish them and filed a lawsuit that was quickly settled out of court.
[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So what you're saying is the demon was the attorney.
[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He summoned that demon.
[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_02]: That's funny.
[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_02]: The way they have it written in here, it's for sure.
[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So after that, in December of 69, the Church of Scientology put out a statement in the London Sunday Times
[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_01]: that said that Hubbard's involvement with Parsons was part of a clandestine mission
[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_01]: that he'd been sent on by the US Navy to break up black magic in America.
[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_01]: He went to live at the house and investigated the black magic rights in the situation and found them very bad.
[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Very, very bad.
[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_01]: They're they're bad.
[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_01]: They're so bad.
[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So this from a dude that had to hide out on a fucking boat.
[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: So you wouldn't get extradited to whatever exactly.
[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_01]: So and it goes on to say that Elrond Hubbard rescued a girl they were using, make himself look like a fucking hero.
[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking good guy.
[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So the black magic group.
[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, that's how cults work, right?
[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we got to start dealing with some cults here.
[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So it ended up the black magic group was dispersed and destroyed.
[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, El Ron.
[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, El Ron.
[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So indeed, Parsons ended up selling the Pasadena mansion and withdrew from the cult shortly after his ordeal with Hubbard.
[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Though it's not clear exactly what sparked his resignation, but his hardships weren't over yet.
[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_01]: No, they weren't son of a bitch.
[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, you get into the guy.
[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's just probably trying to find himself.
[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He had a lot of extracurricular activities going on besides like weapons of mass destruction.
[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you go from being a nerd in high school and get no pussy and all of a sudden, pussies handed to you on a platter.
[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You're fucking the doors off.
[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You're allowed to fuck your wife's sister.
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Your wife's 17-year-old.
[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Take her.
[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: She was probably already sleeping around.
[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're fucking beating the brakes off that bitch.
[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck, man.
[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Would I do that personally?
[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_01]: No, that would make for sticky family dynamics.
[00:37:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think they gave a shit.
[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't because they were worshiping themselves.
[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Do what thou will.
[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So like and then on the on in the onset of the Red Scare in the 40s, Parsons came under scrutiny again by the government because he was involved with sexual aversion, sexual perversion with the OTO.
[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The fact that he'd sought and sought work with foreign countries because the U.S. government shut him out.
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Also made authorities suspicious of him.
[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_01]: For what it's worth, Parsons insisted that the FBI was following.
[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no doubt.
[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm sure they were.
[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure J.
[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Edgar Hoover wanted some of that.
[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing.
[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: You got any 17 year old boys I can get on here?
[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And here's the thing.
[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that the FBI was following him not to see what he was doing, but to see where they could fuck him.
[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, what's he doing here?
[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, well, let's we could fuck him in this.
[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_01]: We can make it seem like he did this.
[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: We know that cross dresser Hoover had fucking like control files on presidents.
[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Mobster.
[00:38:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fuck.
[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did.
[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_01]: The mobsters had control files on his ass, too.
[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_01]: They turn the tables because let's not forget, like the mafia helped create the FBI and the fucking CIA.
[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. All of the above.
[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, lucky Luciano got fucking deported and started working.
[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they all worked to help defeat the Germans.
[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_01]: And they killed a president.
[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And they were the government sought their help.
[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. Yeah.
[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a thing of a masterpiece.
[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It's hypocrisy and it's finest.
[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_01]: How do we fuck the American people?
[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Organized crime melded with government oversight and overreach and tyranny.
[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, he was under suspicion.
[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_01]: No hope of returning to government work.
[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm using his explosives expertise to create special effects for the film industry, which is cool.
[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That is really fun.
[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he found another way.
[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Now he's got he said three rebirths, too.
[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It's more of a dangerous CGI.
[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can respect that.
[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_01]: The cat was just like, OK, well, if I can't do this and I can't do this, I'll do this.
[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Plus, you guys, I'm still going to be rich and famous motherfuckers.
[00:39:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So blowing shit up.
[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Fuck y'all.
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking chicks.
[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: You can you can say they're making money.
[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: No doubt.
[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like them.
[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like the devil work.
[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the.
[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and who knows?
[00:39:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the more I read into this.
[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Shit, I probably grew up when I was 40.
[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, started to the more the more you look into it, though.
[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that dude might have just been like, oh, yeah, I'm following you, Alistair.
[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's just like, I'm going to get me some booze and get me some strange.
[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. God, God.
[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Who? What are you talking about?
[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you're talking about.
[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_01]: So he's an expert.
[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Never sees the reckless backyard rocketry experiments.
[00:39:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking love it.
[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Thirty seven years old.
[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Just blowing shit up.
[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have to pay.
[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he just had to get the components.
[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have to pay.
[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And Phantom Fireworks for big finale.
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Multi rocket.
[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_02]: This guy probably had access to like some cool shit.
[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, fuck, I'm sitting on like 500 pounds of black.
[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_02]: But they weren't even.
[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but like compared to now, I mean, now you can't buy that shit because you'll
[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_01]: be a fucking.
[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_01]: You'd be a terrorist.
[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_01]: As maybe you should.
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess.
[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, unless you're making a homemade background checks.
[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm just saying.
[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, back then, you know, the same shit was going on.
[00:40:32] [SPEAKER_02]: They were still terrorists.
[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So they say that's what finally did a man.
[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But June 17th, 1952, he was creating pyrotechnics.
[00:40:45] [SPEAKER_01]: A little emerald.
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Bam, bam, bam, bam.
[00:40:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Another notch.
[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Bam, bam, bam, bam.
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Bam.
[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Did you ever see the stepbrothers?
[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:40:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember the dude in the thing?
[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_01]: He's going, bam, that comedian, Robin, he's and and Will Ferrell is like, why is he?
[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Is he saying bam?
[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, because when they're in Derek's office and he's like, you if you fuck my
[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_02]: nut on this, I was talking about the fucking the oh, what the fuck's it called?
[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_02]: The California, the fucking California Catalina wine mixer.
[00:41:17] Yeah.
[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Bam.
[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_01]: So they're saying that's what he did.
[00:41:22] [SPEAKER_01]: He blew himself up.
[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Now, here's the thing.
[00:41:25] [SPEAKER_02]: This motherfucker knew what he was doing.
[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_02]: He always make the fucking dude started the jet propulsion lab.
[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this motherfucker knows what he's doing.
[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So he ain't going to mix some shit that he shouldn't be mixing on accident and certainly
[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_01]: not probably fucking dropping it.
[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, he dropped it.
[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_01]: It blew up.
[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Sweaty hands.
[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_01]: He always had sweaty hands.
[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_01]: That son of a bitch.
[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That's why he could jack off so fucking JP.
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That son of a bitch.
[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_02]: I tell you what, that fucking guy is always sweating.
[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Always sweating.
[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_01]: And I guess like mansions were rocking, you know, he was still living pretty good.
[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_01]: And sold that one.
[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_01]: He moved back into another area and had a big fucking, you know, man in Hollywood
[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_01]: or whatever.
[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And they said the explosion, you could see if you could feel it for like 50
[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_01]: miles or see it from 50 miles away.
[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You ain't telling me that.
[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_01]: And yet looking arms over here and his face.
[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, face almost ripped off.
[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's missing right forearm.
[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh shit, dude.
[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's crazy.
[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: All kinds of broken bones, obviously.
[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And his last words were, but I'm not finished yet.
[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I killed myself.
[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it's me, Parsons.
[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking arms gone.
[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_02]: Not finished yet.
[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?
[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not his voice.
[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?
[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it's me, JP.
[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck, I'm only 37.
[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Got broken bones.
[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I got lots of my dick still rock hard and fucking pounding.
[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Got a crazy man.
[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I got a hedonistic mansion to get back to.
[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Why would I want to kill myself?
[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's fucking crazy.
[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm fucking 17 year old.
[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody please investigate this.
[00:43:10] [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?
[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck?
[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Something's going on.
[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But he was effeminate.
[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think, I seriously doubt he sounded like that.
[00:43:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Well then he might have fucked up to his wrist was a little limp.
[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_01]: He dumped a little too much of this.
[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you limp-wristed?
[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You ever been on a job and the dude's like,
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Jackie P.
[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: What's wrong with your fucking wrist?
[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not strong enough.
[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't do this fucking job.
[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_01]: You can't mix chemicals in your limp-wristed bastard.
[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You keep fucking with that limp wrist, you're going to blow shit up.
[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you.
[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't trust you.
[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You got the brains but you're not an athlete.
[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: You're not like me.
[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You're a fucking pussy, Jack.
[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck, Jack?
[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking Jack.
[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the life of Jack Parsons.
[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's something to the effect that a lot of conspiracy theorists say
[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_01]: that that cop he helped put away as an expert witness back in the late 30s, early 40s,
[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever it was, a dirty cop, he never got,
[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he got put away or he didn't get put away very long.
[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_01]: He was like a Jack Ruby.
[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_01]: He came back and got him.
[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Either that or...
[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You fucking limp-wrist, handsy motherfucking devil worshiper.
[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the funny thing about it is too,
[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: the way my brain went was that same guy could have just mixed some chemicals around.
[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, that's pretty simple.
[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You break in, you know he had a lockpick.
[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And who locks their doors back in the 40s and 50s?
[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_01]: When you're in a mansion.
[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fuck.
[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Like rich people need to steal off you.
[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Like as soon as they see a hobo, the fucking paddy wagon comes.
[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_01]: There's probably cops on every fucking crosswalk.
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and they didn't have CCTV.
[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They just had fucking bodies.
[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody could hop a wall and go right to his home lab.
[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_01]: And if it was somebody who knew him at one time and knew how to gain access...
[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Crooks didn't even...
[00:45:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck, do you think John Dillinger rolled into a bank job with a mask on?
[00:45:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, no, fuck you, I'm John Dillinger.
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Do what I want.
[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like Robin Hood, motherfucker.
[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And I ain't sharing.
[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to hide this shit and I'm going to hit another bank tomorrow.
[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_01]: And then they're going to name guns after me.
[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be a cult hero.
[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck everybody.
[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And he's getting pussy too.
[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh Christ.
[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_00]: That fucking guy?
[00:45:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Johnny D.
[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Dude.
[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_01]: We do true crime.
[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Why aren't we hitting the classics?
[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_01]: What with Johnny?
[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a great idea.
[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_01]: A baby face.
[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Great idea.
[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_01]: That's our next one.
[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Why are we so close-minded to like...
[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're just trying to think of today's world because everybody's familiar with it.
[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Plus we're really fucking busy and we half ass every...
[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like we do a week's worth of research.
[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't even give you an episode every week, let alone spend weeks of, you know...
[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine if we did that.
[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_01]: But...
[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_01]: We'd make more money on these people.
[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We do give you just a tip.
[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_01]: The tip.
[00:46:09] [SPEAKER_02]: The tip.
[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sweating.
[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_02]: You got sweaty balls.
[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So the government simply wanted to get rid of the now embarrassing icon of American scientific
[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_01]: history for good.
[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody says my sweaty balls are delightful.
[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Tell us more about your sweaty balls.
[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Super duper, hi it's me Jack Parsons.
[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone loves that.
[00:46:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Look at my rocket.
[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_01]: It's red.
[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I painted it red.
[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Got a rocket in my pocket.
[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Jack Parsons.
[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So there you go guys.
[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a pretty short episode and that's good.
[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But it was a good one.
[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's informative.
[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_01]: It's nice because we can meld it with Crowley.
[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because we get to pull strings on...
[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_02]: It's our octopus, okay?
[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_02]: It's our little mini octopus.
[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Hats off to our man Danny.
[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Our big guy Dan in the octopus.
[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Well yeah, Casalero.
[00:47:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I was just telling people at the...
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Was I?
[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I was probably really drunk on whiskey.
[00:47:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Makers Mark and ginger ale baby.
[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You ever fucking watch the octopus murders man?
[00:47:22] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like we don't have Amazon.
[00:47:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like I'm not even fucking sure what it's on.
[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I watched it.
[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It's fantastic.
[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's good.
[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Danny Casalero.
[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You weren't promoting the podcast every time you were walking around.
[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Every time I saw you you were talking like an old person.
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: No.
[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Every time I shot...
[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Joker is like...
[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_01]: My wife's like...
[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_01]: The mayor.
[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You need to get Joker back in there.
[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_01]: His wife's sitting there alone and then I wouldn't find you.
[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be like Joker's fucking Joker baby.
[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_01]: She was fine.
[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she was fine.
[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I gave her a hug and a really long sloppy kiss and I'm like I miss you.
[00:48:07] I love you.
[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Show me your feet.
[00:48:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see them feet.
[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_01]: That's all he talks about.
[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_01]: How dainty.
[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like a crazy like what century in the Chinese broke the feet of little girls.
[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They used to make them wear those tight...
[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The smallest feet of them most desirable.
[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_01]: They used to make them wear those wooden shoes that were like...
[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And they'd break their fucking feet all the time.
[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_01]: What is fucking going on there?
[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just like...
[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesomeness.
[00:48:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That's another episode.
[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like rappers.
[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Bitches need to be put in their place I guess.
[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Bitches be bitches.
[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: So alright y'all.
[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_01]: God loves you and so do we.
[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We do fucking love you.
[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Do not forget chasingbadpodcast at gmail.com.
[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it is.
[00:48:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Send us a motherfucking email.
[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_01]: We might actually start almost a Patreon but on Spreaker it's called something different.
[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So you guys might have to make donations to get these awesome, awesome, awesome episodes.
[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You learn so much here.
[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_01]: The Harry Triangle.
[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_01]: We give you new sayings and words.
[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_01]: And what we'll do is we'll go get free t-shirts from some other show and we'll send them to you.
[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Bam.
[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_01]: It won't even be our t-shirt.
[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I will be going down to the United...
[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_01]: What is that?
[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_01]: The Salvation Army?
[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_01]: What's another place?
[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember?
[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll find out where the losing team in the Super Bowl that had their Super Bowl shirts made.
[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll send you there.
[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Africa.
[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to hook up with them dudes, get some of them super nasty San Francisco 49ers shit from the 80s.
[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_01]: When they did win and it'll say Champions.
[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_01]: But we love you.
[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And remember man, God does love you man.
[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_01]: All you gotta do is open your heart.
[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't even have to open your heart to us.
[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We fucking love you anyway.
[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially you fly bitches out there with the Harry Triangle.
[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But here's the outro.
[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Chalking the bitches and slapping the hoes.
[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Here it comes.
[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Cheating lady like a whore and a whore like a lady.
[00:50:14] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I want a lady on the street but a freak in the bed.
[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't do that though.
[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_01]: We're doing all hip hop shit right now.
[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I know. We're not even hip hop.
[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_02]: No, like rap.
[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Doing a little NWA in there.
[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_01]: We grew up guns and roses and then we transitioned into badass grunge.
[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So eat it.
[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Your fucking generation is not fucking toe in the line with music, man.
[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Taylor Swift is not an artist.
[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Come on! Come on!
[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_01]: All the Swifties are going to be after you.
[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't want the Swiftie witches coming after us.
[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, peace.
[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: B R
[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Motherfucker!
[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_02]: What?
[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_03]: This is scary.
[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_03]: You ate what?