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It is how we can move up within the podcasting world, and it is a great way to support the show. Also, if you leave a rating, and review. Then your good deed is done for the day, and that puts you on the fast tract of having an excellent day. Now for today's episode, we are just gonna jump right into it. I don't have any sort of fancy right up to read. I don't have any cool introduction, but we are gonna be talking with Crazy Strange Days. This is another podcast that I've listened to that I recommend. I'm not exactly sure how we've connected, but we connected, and Crazy Strange Days decided to come on the show with me tonight and talk about a pretty wild UFO incident that happened in nineteen seventy four on the Mexico American border near the small town of Koyame in the state of Chihuahua, in the middle of the dusty old desert. So let's just jump let's literally jump right into it. We're gonna jump right into our talk about what some people call the Chihuahuan disc crash and while other people call Mexico's roswell, take your pick. Either's good. Let's jump right into mine and Crazy Strange Days discussion on Mexico's Roswell I actually found, so I don't know how how in depth you went. But there is like an actual supposed uh leaked five from you know if I did. I did see that and uh by a couple of researchers the DNEB Report or something. I just saw eb Oh maybe I just saw that. It was titled something like the Chuahwa Disk Crash or something. But but anyway, so I copied that and I figured i'd just read off of that, we'd go over that. Oh that that works, because the only I keep just hitting like books and you know, and I tried to get some podcast, did some searches, not really getting too much on this crash. Man. I've come across this on like I don't know, Ancient Aliens or History Channel or something. I remember this crash and it being a trip, you know, yeah, I know that they just there was a TV show, an episode of of UFO Hunters that covered it. There you go, that's probably it. And I know there's just what I've what I've found. It's just you know, the Mexican in the US government's race racing to get to this crash is a trip to me, right, I don't remember ever hearing anything in depth about two countries chasing a crash, yeah, to get there first. Anyhow, I know, I did an episode a while back on the Argon. It happened in Brazil. It was the Virginia. It was a UFO crash as well, and like the America, you know, our government, the American government, they had tracked it coming into Brazil and they told Brazil that it was coming in and they crashed and like these aliens were running around for a week and then the American government is that is that the case where people like like a cop got poisoned by touching it or yeah, okay, yeah that that one man. Brazil crashes are the most bizarre ones. I just it's amazing. It's like almost regional how it's maybe our own constructs, you know, I don't know, but this from the country to country. Yeah, that's a trip. I actually listened to some of that one that you did. I think you put it on Facebook and as an episode. Yeah, I clicked on it, listened to a lot of it. Yeah, and that's that's a wild one. Yeah, there was one of my episodes. People love them UFOs Bigfoot now dog Man, right, you know, Yeah, I'm trying to there's a guy who hey, we don't need to get in that. We can start, okay, agent forever about weird stuff. Oh yeah, I'm the same dude, right. But yeah, So so this this is known as you know, Mexico's Roswell for the the Chihuahua Desert crash. I don't know what you want to call it, you know, I mainly know Mexico's roswell. Yeah. I was picking up some stuff that Yami or however pronounced as the localized village. So yeah, so I heard about this, this mysterious file on this crash on another podcast that I listened to all the time called the Expanded Perspectives. I don't know if you ever heard of them, but no, I have to check it out. Yeah, they're they're they're really cool. Uh And and like I said, I wrote, you know, I wrote up this whole paper blah blah blah, and my kid ended up one of my sons ended up deleting it somehow, and I wasn't able to uh undo what he did. So I found that, you know, the actual file, and I figured we could you know, read off of that. And I also added a couple of things, uh, some eyewitness accounts and you know, a couple other things that are pretty interesting. But uh, but yeah, so we have this file because someone within the government back in the nineteen nineties, like ninety two or ninety three, who had access you know, obviously had access to the file and probably many others. Apparently they believed in full disclosure, you know, before disclosure was even really talked about, and they sent it to a youthologist named Elaine Douglas in nineteen ninety three. So that's kind of okay, okay, And that's you know, there's like seems to be a couple of different camps, maybe three or four in the government with these things. There's like the ultra Christians that do not that just want to stomp it, you know, disinformation then you know, disclosure movements, whistle blowers. I mean, that's that's the best thing right there, man, somebody with the balls to be a whistleblower, right like big because honestly, we I guess the locals would have known about this before. You know, I really don't see much information other than what you're saying that the whistle we're coming forth with the documents in the nineties really blowing the lid off of it, right, Yeah, I know, a lot of it seems like a lot of this picked up with what was his name over the summer. Well do you remember what that guy grush Grudge. Yeah, yeah, I feel like a lot of stuff's picked up recently. But uh yeah, I always wonder the motivations, you know, just another round of disinformation or it's another blue book, you know, because Kirk Patt was that guy. Kirkpatrick was the head of eight a tip but Arrow, and he just resigned after like a year. He made the rounds and kind of shooting stuff down like it's you know, it's man made stuff. Oh that was the guy from the the New York New York Times article that they that they wrote about. Was that what that was? Yeah? He was. He was a director for a year with Arrow, the new uh yeah, government agency that's supposed to do all this UAP stuff. God, I want to be like to work in there. You know, the things you would learn, you know, it's just amazing. They come out and just spin, you know, like this dude probably knows where basically where the bodies are, right, he knows where they're buried, right, and he's just spinning Like they talk about the one trying uh now the square with the circles is a circle within the square. Uap that. I think one of the guns cameras caught it, and he's like, now there's you know, there's people working on you know, in Taiwan, they're working on drones that are exactly like that, right this due this, dude's the worst when we get there. It's just the worst when we get further into this. I I was looking up. Actually, I guess it's not too far, too far down my list here I was looking. I started looking at because because this object, you know, it comes in well, I'll get it more in depth into it, but it comes in at like I don't know three, you know, mark three or something like that. It's coming in super fast. So I was like, you know, I wanted to know how fast you know, jet fighters and reconnaissance planes. How fast are these these these planes fly at? So I got a whole list, and then that that brought me into a whole another topic like NASA's X forty three. I don't know if you ever heard of that. Is that the Aurora project or is that a different one with the scramjet or something? Yeah, yeah, it was part of that. Okay, I think I think this evolved into that. But yeah, and then right right, there's like one Boeing was making. It seems it seems like they did all this twenty years ago and then they just retired. But like, so what what what do they have now? You know? Yeah, you're right, because the SR seventy one, I think could twenty three hundred miles an hour maybe something like that, full pressurized like accurate suits somewhere here. Yeah yeah, nuts man, but yeah, so absolutely right. Yeah, well I got I got a couple. But on August twenty fifth, nineteen seventy four, at twenty two oh seven hours, which I think is like, I don't really I'm not hip on military time, but I think it's like ten oh seven. US Air Defense radar detected and unknown And I'm reading straight from this this report here detected an unknown approaching US airspace from the Gulf of Mexico. Uh. The object was tracked at twenty two hundred miles miles an hour, which is pretty fast. Twenty five hundred and thirty miles prior twenty two hundred knots yeah even faster. Yeah. It says on a bearing of three hundred and twenty five degrees and an altitude of seventy five thousand feet, and it was on a course that would intercept US territory about forty miles southwest of Corpus Christi, Texas. At the approximately sixty seconds of observation at a position one hundred and fifty five miles southeast of Corpus Christi, the object simultaneously decelerated to approximately nineteen hundred and fifty five miles per hour and turned to a heading of two hundred and ninety degrees and began a slow descent. It then entered Mexican airspace approximately forty miles south of Brownsville, Texas. Radar tracked it approximately five hundred miles to a point near the town of Cyame in the state of Chihuahua, not far from the US border. The objects suddenly disappeared from the radar screens. So that's kind of wild man, right it is. That is so freaking fast, and nora AD's track at they are y now, yeah, at least add if some in some way, you know fashion, they're tracking his baby and it's coming in hot yeah, yeah, I mean this So this was seventy four, so they you know, they had been investigating UFOs for a while now. Was Blue Books still around? Is it just recently? Maybe a couple of years before that GUELT shut down? Yeah, I'm not sure. I can't remember. I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, I think Bluebrook was around for a while, but I'm not exactly sure. But uh so, yeah, it's coming in twenty five hundred miles an hour, almost twenty six hundred miles an hour, So I wanted this is when I started looking into other aircraft, and I got so a seven forty seven passenger jet, you know, travels at five hundred and seventy five miles an hour at cruising altitude, and I got I got a few here. I probably won't read them all, but there's a couple I do want to point out. The B fifty two Spirit, like the B fifty two bomber, or no, the B the B two Spirit. Sorry, that's the triangular stake bomber. That's stealth. That's the stealth, right, okay, yeah right, it flies at six hundred and thirty miles an hour. And then the F twenty two Raptor, which is supposedly America's most stealthiest fighter jet, tops out at mock two point five, which is seventeen twenty six miles an hour. Wow, then let's see what else I got here. The F fifteen. That's a pretty popular jet, the fighter jet. They have fifteen been in operation for about fifty years. Yeah, it's so nimble and it's able to make tight turns without losing any of its mock two point five speech that's nineteen hundred and eighteen miles an hour. So it's able to turn you know, at mock two point five, which is interesting, especially when you're talking a couple of miles. Yeah, it's probably it's probably covering a couple miles on that turn. Right. That's crazy. That's crazy. Kind of sounds like it's almost doing exactly what this UFO is doing. You know, you often hear people talk about UFOs and you hear like on TV or or whatever, and they'd be like he was going so fast and it was it just turned. You know, its speeds that that no no human could ever handle, right, a ninety degree turn right, it would just you just turn into liquid, right, I mean, it'd be crazy. And I mean I've seen the videos where they do do that. There it's just like and it's gone. It just turned. Yeah, what the heck was that? I just I had a blow up alien up on my wall and it just fell over and knocked something down. Wow, you haven't been doing any like possessions or anything, and he shows on Demons lately, you don't you can talk about that. I did an episode that I never released well now about Demons, and ever since then, I've been super creeped out to be in my studio. But I was so creepy it was. I was so creeped out I didn't even want to release it. Yeah yikes. But yeah, so so, like I was saying, I mean, you hear these people talk about these tight turns that these things make at super speeds. But apparently this F fifteen, you know, the F fifteen fighter jet can can make pretty tight turns at nineteen one hundred miles an hour. So I don't know, I mean, not ninety degree turns, but yeah, that's incredible speeds right there too. Man, that's just oh yeah, definitely. I guess it depends on the pilot if he can handle the g's without blacking out. But yeah, point taking for sure. Got that creeped me out. Then I wrote down the MiG twenty five fox bat the fox yeah, fox Bat NATO designation. Yeah, those were bad, those dudes. Yeah fast yep. It was apparently was built to reach speeds of mock three point two, but it was limited to two point eighty three, which is too twenty one hundred and seventy one miles per hour. You know, so it doesn't like part in mid air. That's just nuts. Yeah, they were still like we were like, yeah, there's still like pulleys and cables in those those aircraft, which is nuts, right right, Yeah, they are pretty old control systems, yeah, like the old computerized obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Uh. And then that's kind of when I got into the the SR seventy one Blackbird, because I was like, well, maybe they're tracking a blackbird coming in, you know, and they don't know it or something like this, because it's except seventy five thousand feet, you know, it is right around where the blackbird would be. It's coming in hot, you know, it starts dropping. But uh, but it probably most likely wasn't a blackbird obviously, but right, the blackbird can travel at mock three point three, which is twenty five you know a little over twenty five hundred miles an hour, but that's a cruising speed up. Apparently they stratosphere Yeah, higher they are. Yeah. And then so apparently you already kind of know about this. This is when I got into this this NASA X forty three, which is part of that program, and this plane, this plane, I guess you could call it a plane or jet. Uh. It was kind of like a jet on top of a booster rocket. So they dropped it out of the back of a B fifty two or off the wing of a B fifty two, and then from there, you know, this houster rocket shoots it off at mock nine point six, you know. Uh, I didn't write down how fast that was. That sounds probably right, though, I mean, yeah, it's ridiculous, like it's unmanned though, right, It's yeah, it's unman it's unman yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's ridiculously fast. You know, it shoots out, it flies for a couple of seconds, and then it kind of just coasts back down. But uh, that's when I got from there. I got into the Boeing X fifty one wave Runner, which is kind of like the same thing, goes a little slower Mock five. It was all you know, the these two these two scramjets, I don't know what you want to call them. They were retired right flight twenty thirteen one. The first one was retired in like the early two thousands. The X fifty one was retired in twenty thirteen. But you know, they use the data generated by these these these trial runs, you know, as part of this thing called the Conventional Prompt Strike CPS program, which would allow the US to deliver a warhead anywhere in the world within one hour. So this is like something they're currently working on, which I thought was interesting. So so yeah, they could they be kept in orbit like that The Air Force has that. It almost looks like a modified shuttle that can stay up for a year or two or three. Yeah, cars, yeah, you think is is that related? I mean, but those speeds are obviously the three the Blackbird to the other two projects you were talking about are doing, you know, they that's what you're talking about, that type of speed, right that this this thing was going so and two of those are unmanned, like we can't you know, maybe we can. We're usually forty years ahead of civilian you know, as far as the black projects, but yep, Yeah. So man, that's that's a that's something that it's hard to wrap your head around it. Yeah, it did. It got me wondering if these were like, you know, maybe they're the UFOs, these UAPs, maybe there are just like super yeah, like yeah, they're just they're just gonna pretend like they're aliens because that's what everybody wants when they're they actually just our stuff flying around and they don't about it. You know. Yeah, it's perfect because then they really don't have to put propaganda out there or they don't have to spend money to keep it you know, under wraps where somebody sees it it's the UFO, right, because oh, that's like and then we'll get into this, like you know, the US officials who were tracking this object that crashed in Mexico, they were ready to start a war just to retrieve it. You know, it sounds like it for sure. But during Okay, during the flight over Mexican airspace, the object leveled off at forty five thousand feet, then descended to twenty thousand feet. The descent was in level steps, something called level steps, not a smooth curve or straight line, and each level was maintained for approximately five minutes. Huh wow, Yeah, I thought that was a weird, weird detail, you know, maybe maybe it means Yeah, it's like almost like maybe it could be we could have been well, I'm obviously a crash and we know what it is we think anyhow. But yeah, I mean that does sound something like what we would do controlled you know, descents and things like this. Right. Uh, let's see here the object was tracked by two different military radar installations. It would have been within range of Brownsville civilian radar, but is It is assumed that no civilian radar detected the object due to lack of any such reports. The point of disappearance from the radar screen was over a baron and sparsely populated area of northern Mexico. At first, it was assumed that the object had descended below the radar's horizon, and a watch was kept for any re emergence of the object, but none occurred. At first, it was assumed that the object might have been a meteor because of the high speed that it was flying at in the descending flight path, but meteors normally travel at higher speeds and descend in a smooth arc, not in these steps, and meteors do not normally make a thirty five degree change and course. Shortly after detection and air defense alert was called. However, before any form of interception could be scrambled, the object turned to a course that would not immediately take it over US territory. The alert was called off within twenty minutes after the object's disappearance from radar screens. Fifty two minutes after the disappearance, civilian radio traffic indicated that a civilian aircraft had gone down in that area, but it was clear that the missing aircraft had departed El Paso International Airport with the destination of Mexico City and could not therefore have been the object tracked over the Gulf of Mexico. It was noted, however, that they both disappeared in the same area and at the same time. And this is where I was able to find a I'm drawn a blank on what they're called here. It was a first person report, an eyewitness, Yeah, an eyewitness report. So I don't I just totally draw a blank right there? No, I do it constantly. It's late. Yeah, yeah, that night Johnny Chambers and her ten year old son John John apparently her name is Johnny and his name's john. I saw that. That tripped me up. I'm like, wait a minute, is that Johanne or is that yeah? I remember reading. Yeah, I get reaction that you just had. Oh so you saw this article too. I saw it, Yeah, but I didn't focus too much on it because it seemed like a different side and I wanted some meet, you know, and like, I didn't see the report that you have, right, that's awesome, dude. I didn't come across that. I have something similar, but it's not in that depth. I thought. I saved it on my phone. I forget what it was called. Oh, I actually have the link if you want to if you want to look at it, well I read I have a link if you go to Google and just type in research findings on the Chihuahua disc crash. I think it's the first, the first uh link there? Uh? Okay, back to where it was, all right, Yeah, sorry for knocking you off track there, No, that's fine. So, yeah, I got a an eyewitness encounter from an article out of Hey guys, off of m R. It says MRT dot com. Uh and yeah, so since that that same night, Johnny Chambers and her ten year old son John were traveling. It didn't specify whether they were like hiking, driving, or on horseback, but uh, apparently they were in the mountains. It does state that they saw a bright light in the distance. Missus Chambers said it resembled a sunrise but had billowing clouds. But I'm assuming of smoke that were filled with you know, different colors like blues, reds, and purples. Uh. She assumed it was a crash of some sort, you know, just over the border in Mexico, but as nobody had mentioned anything of it within the you know, the next few days, she forgot all about it for the next thirty eight years until her son John mentioned a UFO conference that had come to town where the two, Uh, there were two speakers who are actually the authors of Roswell, Mexico's Roswell. They had come to town and they were talking about the crash, and then you know, she was like, oh, you know what, maybe maybe I saw that. I think I saw that. And she told them about this, about what she saw, and that was really the only like, you know, first person eye witness I could find. Yeah, at least on our side, I know, I mean, I think some of them on the Mexican side may have seen it, but you know we're not. Yeah, it's it's it's pretty it's hard to research this one. Yeah, I mean you did find that report, which is awesome. Yeah, man, I only found the report because of the podcast I was listening to. So yeah, I was the thing I had written up. I had pieced together between you know, that Mexico's Roswell book and another article I was or no, I think was that same article, as well as the UFO Hunters TV show. I kind of like pieced together a timeline. But but this this is much better. I was just you know, I did see some contrarian you know, theories about the civilian plane, and you're probably gonna get to it. Maybe I'm jumping the gun, you know what I'm talking about? The drug dealing. Yeah, no, I didn't, mule, I didn't look into any of that, but I did hear about that. Yeah, yeah, and I just it's a far that. I think that's that's reaching. Man. You know, twenty four Mexican soldiers dead, right, the a hell of them and it's a small like a cessna, right, I mean, yeah, kind of firepower those those cats having that little planet, right, yeah, I mean I just wrote it off. Yeah, yeah, I don't really know what to think about that. I am, I don skeptical, but I don't know. I feel this this has a you know, an authentic ring to it. I really like. Yeah, that's that's why I emailed you, and I was like, oh man, I really want to do this this thing because I heard them talking about it. I was like, wow, that sounds exactly like the Virginia incident in Brazil, you know, almost exactly. You know, the government comes in, US government comes in, They're like, we're taking that and we're leaving. See you later. That's pretty much. Yeah, that's just how it is. When you know, we call we get it. You can't do anything about it. I guess, you know, right right. And I wonder if this is a formal agreement with certain countries, you know, we each get a region or something that we get, not North and South America, you know, I don't know. Yeah, it's five eyes at least like in Australia and England, like you know, maybe France even's in that. I bet you there's some sort of agreement on the on the book. I think so so they can just get to they have those quick deploying teams that get to it and get it out, right. I mean, that's it seems like at least that that's our deal, Like we're really good at it. Yeah, right, we got them all. Yeah. I know, there's another pretty interesting one from Russia that you know, it's like the Russian roswell or whatever, but we don't. We don't have to get into that right now. I mean, I'm sorry if I'm knocking you off track, man, it's just no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine. They follow like the same dNaM you know, a lot of these retrievals. Yeah, uh so. Yeah. So so the the the UFO go down, the plane goes down together, and you know, locals are calling it, calling it into the to the what I'm guessing is is the local army base because I'm pretty sure, and I did not look this up, and I should have, but I'm pretty sure the police in Mexico their national and they're kind of like the army almost. I don't know, maybe not, but no, I think you're kind they're kind of. Yeah, they work together paramilitary even more than you know, our police are. Whoever they called the authorities. They didn't take it seriously. They're like, it's a plane crash. We'll go out in the morning and check it out. So they kind of sat there all night and the next morning, and this is what the report says. With daylight the next day, Mexican authorities began a search for the missing plane, and approximately ten thirty five hours so ten to thirty in the morning, there came a radio report that wreckage from the missing plane had been spotted from the air. Almost immediately came a report of a second plane on the ground a few miles from the first. A few minutes later, an additional report stated that the second plane was circular shaped and apparently in one piece, although damaged. A few minutes after that, the Mexican military clamped a radio silence on all search efforts. So up to this point, you know, our government, the United States government, they're they're tracing tracking all this this communication that's going on in Mexico, and that's kind of how they're getting a picture of what's going on. We probably have a satellite on it, I know. Later on they moved spy planes and satellites in. I'm not I'm not so sure about early on, but I do know, you know, within the next hour or two, they start moving in the radio. Interceptions were reported through channels to the CIA. UH. Possibly as many as two additional government agencies also received reports, but such has not been confirmed as of this date. The CIA immediately began forming a recovery team. The speed with which this team and its equipment was assembled suggests that this was either a well rehearsed exercise or one that had been performed prior to this event. So apparently they're there are they're moving quickly. They've done this absolutely, and this is nineteen seventy four. I just want to throw that back out there, you know, right, we're doing it for a while. Yeah. Whenever I think of of UFO crashes, for some reason, I always think of like the nineties, or maybe it's because this report came out in the nineties ninety three. I keep thinking that this is ninety three, but it's it's nineteen seventy four, so right. Uh. In the meantime, requests were initial initiated at the highest levels between the United States and Mexican governments that the US recovery team be allowed into onto be allowed onto Mexican territory to assist. These request were met with professed ignorance and a flat refusal of any cooperation. By twenty one hundred hours on August twenty six, nineteen seventy four, the recovery team had assembled and been staged at Fort Bliss. Several helicopters were flown in from some unknown sources and assembled in a secured area. These helicopters were painted a neutral sand color and bore no markings. Eye witnesses indicate that there were three smaller crafts, very probably very probably UHI Huey's from the description. There was also one larger helicopter, possibly a sea stallion. Personnel from this team remained with their craft and had no contact with other Fort Bliss personnel. So that's interesting. That is interesting because you know, my initial thought is okay, or they can't really if there's a main base that they have these quick deploying recovery units. I mean, you can't travel super fast with the helicopters. So I was thinking maybe they just painted some Huey's or whatever and Fort Bliss and just took you know, took those, but right, yeah, I didn't think it's something too. That is weird that they brought in other ones. Yeah, in the superstyle, and I thought those were Navy, but I keep seeing that too, So who knows. Man, maybe they're their own units around, right, equipment around. Yeah, I don't know how that works. But it's quick deploying for sure, definitely. And I know, like we often hear of it says that there were no bore, no markings, which you know we've heard of before with these black helicopters. I guess they painted at sand color, you know, to match the desert. Maybe they wouldn't painted it if it was somewhere else, if it was night. I don't know. Yeah, you know, Satellite and reconnaissance aircraft overflight that day indicated that both the crashed disc and the civilian aircraft had been removed from the crash site and loaded onto a flatbed truck. Later flights confirmed that the convoy had departed the area and was heading south. So the Mexican government they come in with these flatbeds and these jeeps and they you know, they loaded up onto this truck and they're heading south. And I did have the base, the Mexican base written down my last right up, but I lost it and I can't remember. Wow, yeah, I can't. It was this disc was small enough to compact enough to fit on a like a smaller flatbed too. I think I came across, is that right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like a semi flatbed or anything like that. No. I think it was like seventeen feet with you know, okay, yeah, uh five f right? Yeah? Pretty small. Yeah that's small. You have to sit in it, yeah, I mean you could just barely big enough to fit like one person. I wonder if it's made for dudes half our size. I don't know many I did. I did hear of another what was it? There was another crash I heard of that was pretty popular where It's not Roswell, but it you know, the this this UFO crashes and there there are little people inside of it. It's not Roswell, But I don't know. I I think I know what you're talking about. Still want alive, crawling around outside or something like that. I think, yeah, yeah, I can't remember which one that was either Roswell. They were what calling for the little coffins like children's coffins from the mortuary to the base. Oh yeah, yeah, maybe maybe it was was, well, I'm thinking of I don't know. Yeah, I don't think it's isolated, but I mean, no, I'm I mean it. They're most likely unmanned, you know, they're probably Yeah. I think it's interesting that if they they're talking about the propulsion of these these crafts, that if they do the way they move, and that they do create uh anti magnetic or excuse me, anti graffh etic gravity field, that you would be perfectly fine inside of it, and it could do all those maneuvers and you you wouldn't feel any ges. Well, that's interesting. So yeah, it's multidirectional anti gravity. They can you know, Bob Blazaar breaks it down, which is pretty you know, you did that in the eighties and now these people are you know, and he said that they'd go belly they turned their belly towards the direction they want to go back in the eighties. And then you see it on I forget what gun camera. I think it was the one in the Atlantic. It turns just like that, puts its belly forward and kind of goes what was it? What's that? What was it? What did you say? It was? It was off the uh. I think it was like the two thousand and four. I don't think it was the NEMETXP. It was the one in the Atlantic Ocean, one of the aircraft carriers, and they got that I think it was six or four. Oh you said gun cameras, the gun cameras on the Tomkats or the hornets, whichever at that time they were utilizing. Yeah, and it did. It went belly forward and then took off, which is pre cool footage. And he explained that Bob Blazar, you know, s four when he was working when he said Davie's working on it. But that's what he said that they did. That's some of the things he talks about, you know. Yeah, right, And Stan Friedman used to give him all kinds of ship too, like he was a faker. But unfortunately he died before all this stuff came out. Man, he'd be biting his tongue, right, who I love? I love Stan Friedman. But you know, you you might know this guy off the top of your head. Who's the guy? Who he was? He was? I think it was a geologist. He was working underground and Dulce Bill Bill Schneider, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like I like that guy. I feel like he's kind of like a like a Bob Azar figure. Yeah. I did a show on uh the other my other podcast, Chasing Bad, and we did the whole dulceaf bassed Phil Schneider and it's actually one of the it's our most popular freaking episode. Man, again, here we go with the UFOs, right, yeah, and the alien stuff. But yeah, that is a tripped out story. Then he's got the wounds, he's missing fingers, I mean kind of physically can back up his story. Man, is he dead now? Oh, he got killed. He got suicide, Yeah, suicided, and there was all kinds of you know, just with the yeah, in the cafeter tube they found him. Yeah, that he had a cafetter tube wrap around his throat, but his throat swelled up because the body was filling with gases and you know what a body does when it's been dead for a while. And they screwed up the autopsies a couple of times. It was real shady dude. It's such a it's such a crazy story. Yeah, such a crazy story from cattle mutilations at d'alca that at started in the seventies with this cop I mean, it's just it's just insane. It takes you down the hole, right, it does? It does? I mean it makes it yeah? He he was cool man for sure. Okay. At this point, the CIA had to make a choice either to allow this unknown aircraft to stay in the hands of the Mexican government or to launch the recovery team supplemented by any required military support to take the craft. Uh. There occurred, however, an event that took the choice out of their hands. High altitude overflights indicated that the convoy had stopped before reaching any inhabited areas or major roads. Recon showed no activity and no radio contact between the Mexican recovery team and their headquarters had ceased. A low altitude, high speed overflight was ordered. The photos returned by the aircraft showed all trucks and jeeps stopped, with some open doors and two human bodies laying on the ground besides two vehicles. The decision was immediately made to launch the recovery team, but the actual launching was held up for the arrival of additional equipment and two additional personnel. It was not until fourteen thirty eight, which I believe would be two thirty eight in the afternoon that the helicopters departed for Bliss, so they you know, they're flying these this light airplanes over there seeing they're wondering what's going on. There's dead people laying on the ground. We got to get in there. Since we got to this point, let me ask you a question about this, yep, because like the first thing that came to my and I know they you know, our team's the US team had like biological suits on, has match fuits. But and then the Mexicans are all dead. Yeah, twenty four soldiers. Now, I wonder, since we were reconning this and aware of this whole situation and keeping an eye on it, do you think we had something to do with the death of the Mexican soldiers? Yeah? You think so? It's like a smash and grab. Yeah, I mean, I honestly think that. I mean that came to you know, I'm like, what kind of weapon did it? Was it like the microwave weapons or you know, I was just like, man, but you know, yeah, I mean the shop because I'm pretty sure we'll get into it. I know the authors Okay, okay, I know the authors of Mexico's Roswell. They're talking about suitcase nukes being used. You know, they scrubbed the lot clean. Yeah, the clue when the area ship, they really went in there and cleaned up after themselves. And at the end we'll get into it, you know, we'll get into it again. But the they bring this object to the CDC and they don't find nothing. There's nothing on this, you know, no chemicals, no, you know, residual gases or anything. So it's not like it was you found much more than I did. Yeah, maybe it was just a localized bio weapon, you know, sheese and I didn't know if you obviously that's the common thread there. Everybody kind of jumps to that conclusion. That's wild, dude, I did not find anything like that. Yeah, you're a good researcher, for sure. This was tough for me. Yeah, And I guess in the show that actually went to the site and they found the holes where they put the nuke down, and there's like a there's still a crater there, and but uh, well the football there, let's let's see what. Let's see what happens. Uh. Depart of Fort Bliss at two thirty eight. The four helicopters followed the border down towards God. I always have the hardest time with names. Names, Oh man, President Presido, president Texas. Maybe I don't know. They followed the border. I came across that. Yeah, okay, right, okay, I gotcha. They followed the border down towards uh Presido Texas, then turned and entered a Mexican airspace north of Candelaria. Maybe sounds right. They were over the convoy site at sixteen fifty three hours, so almost five o'clock. All convoy personnel were dead, most within the trucks. Some recovery team members dress bioprotection suits, reconfigured the straps holding the object on the flatbed truck, then attached them to a cargo cable from the sea stallion. By seventeen fourteen hours, the recovered object was on its way back to US territory. Before leaving the convoy site, members of the recovery team gathered together the Mexican vehicles and bodies, then destroyed all with high explosives. This included the pieces of the civilian light plane which had been involved in the mid air collision. At seventeen forty six hours, the Huey's departed. So yeah, this is where I got into this whole tactical suitcase suitcase nuke stuff, and I believe it. It makes total sense. It makes so much sense. Yeah, it does. So the UFO Hunters, which was a TV show. I don't even know if it's still on or not, but yeah, they so this this TV show, These members of this TV show. They met with the authors of Mexico's Roswell uh No Torres and Ruben ur Art your eight. I can't. I can't pronounce that one either. I was hoping you wouldn't. Yeah, it's something you're at or something. Gringos. Dude, I don't know. I'm so bad. I'm so bad with names. But Ruben, what what? How did you pronounce it? But I know you're talking about it right, somebody's gonna email you and go. You guys are freaking gringoes for sure. Oh yeah, bother god, I just heard something else. Now. No, I'm glad I don't have a camera. I don't want to see any of that stuff moving around. I think it's just like a mouse or something. Maybe that happens my wife all the time. Yeah, I don't know. I'm telling you. I did that episode on Demons. I was like talking about them and really freaked me out. Me too, I could spooked for a while I touch on that stuff. Yeah, oh yeah, definitely me too. So yeah. UFO Hunters, as well as the authors of Mexico's Roswell Noel Torres and Ruben your Art Day, investigated the crash site during the fourth episode of season one, and they noted that they believe a suitcase nuke was used to cleanse the area. Wow. Yeah. Now, now, these suitcase nukes, you know, they've gained popularity in the in the last couple of years due to Vladimir Putin, you know, talking about these tactical nukes that he's going to use in Ukraine if he has to, you know, all that stuff. Yeah uh so. Yeah, So a suitcase nuke is slightly different than a tactical nuke. They're considered to be smaller and almost nearly impossible to actually construct. The smallest tactical nuke in operation right now is the W fifty four, which is six point one inches in circumference, about thirty three inches long, and it, you know, weighs about one hundred and eighteen pounds. I looked at a picture of this thing. It's just like a giant backpack. Ya, I was gonna say it's a backpack nuke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It kind of looks like a slightly smaller than like a fifty gallon drum. But it's like a drum that you wear on the on your back. Right. That's crazy. And I guess this sounds like a lot. I might have maybe I wrote down the wrong number. But it packs a punch worth about seventy two tons of TNT. Seems like a lot. That's probably right, though, I mean really, And yeah, man, they believe they used the tactical nukes because you know, for years and years after this had happened, you know, civilians of the area they were told not to go over there, like you know, people are getting stick from water and all this crazy stuff. Apparently it's on in this book. I didn't buy the book, but you can read a certain amount of the book. I think other people reads or something like that. But yeah, so Putin he isn't the only head of state willing to use one of these tactical devices. According to Michael Vickers, who is a former Undersecretary of Defense Intelligence. He says special forces trained on how to successfully enter occupied territory with these devices, which they refer to as special atomic demolition munitions or sadoms. And these special units are known as green Light Teams, and they were active inactive operation throughout the Cold War UH and supposedly are out of commission as of today, but who knows. Yeah, what are you gonna do with all those toys? Right, I mean, if it calls for a new then they're gonna use one. The QWIS caught up with the c stallion as it re entered US airspace. The recovery team then proceeded to a point in the Davis Mountains, approximately twenty five miles northeast of Valentine. There they landed and waited until oh two twenty five hours in the morning, and you know, two thirty in the morning at that time, they resumed the flight and rendezvous with a small convoy on a road between Van Horn and Kent. I'm not exactly sure where all these are in Texas, but i think it's in the west West Texas. That's so detailed. Yeah, that's it's very specific, it is it? Definitely it makes you think, yeah, yeah, I mean support I didn't I didn't get to in depth on who this person was who sent this file, But I guess they were in in the government. I don't know exactly where, but they they sent it to this ufologist the uh. The recovered disc was transferred to a truck large enough to handle it and capable of being sealed totally. Some of the personnel from the Huey's transferred to the convoy. All helicopters then returned to their original basis for decontamination procedures. The convoy continued non stop, using back roads and smaller highways UH and staying away from cities. The destination of the convoy reportedly was Atlanta, Georgia for the sea. Yeah. OK, here the hard evidence thins out. This is this is what the report says. Here the hard evidence thins out. One unconfirmed report says the disc was eventually transferred to Right Patterson Air Force Base. Another says that the disc was either transferred after that to another unnamed base or was taken directly to this unknown base directly from Atlanta. So wherever it goes, it goes to Atlanta first, and then you know whether it's Right Patterson or uh wherever. Yeah, the best description of the disc was that it was sixteen feet five inches in diameter, convex on both upper and lower surfaces. So it's like if you take a plate and flip it up, two plates, flip them upside down, stick them together. That's kind of you know, that's what it would look like. Let's see convex on both upper and lower surfaces to the same degree, possessing no visible doors or windows. The thickness was slightly less than five feet. The color was silver, much like polished steel. There were no visible lights nor any propulsion means. There were no markings. There were two areas of the rim that showed damage, one showing in a regular hole approximately twelve inches in diameter with indented material around it. The other damage was described as a dent about two feet wide. The weight of the object was estimated at approximately one five hundred pounds based on the effect of the weight on the carrying helicopter and those who transferred it to the truck. That's kind of confusing, but well a way to calculate that. But that that doesn't that seem incredibly light for the mean, yes it does. Yeah, jeez uh yeah, like you know, people could almost pick that up, right. Cars the cars are heavier than that. There was no. What I said, I think a car is that normal car would be heavier than that. Yeah, yeah, definitely, Yeah, Okay, that's a trip. There was no indication in the documentation available as to whether anything was visible in the hole. It seems likely that the damage with the whole was caused by the collision with the civilian aircraft. That collision occurred while the object was traveling approximately seventeen hundred knots or nine fifty five miles per hour. Even ignoring the speed of the civilian aircraft, the impact would have been considerable at that This is in agreement with the description of the civilian aircraft as being almost totally destroyed. What was being taken from the crash site was pieces of the civilian aircraft and and those UFO hunters when they went to the crash site. I'm not exactly sure how they they found out where the crash slite was, but you know, there's like pieces of this airplane that are left, just just a couple of the debris field. Yeah, that thing it would have going that at that speed, it would probably smoke that thing. Oh yeah, yeah for sure, right, I mean an hour plane. It said that, you know, the plane went down in one spot, and then the disc went down a couple of miles away, so you know it's still putting a long kind of right. Uh. The second damage may have resulted when the object impacted with the ground, and the speed in that case should have been considerably less than that of the first impact. No mention is made of the occupants of the civilian aircraft. It is not known if any body or bodies were recovered. Considering the destruction of the civilian light aircraft in mid air, bodies may well not have come down near the larger pieces. Unfortunately, that caused the death of the Mexican Unfortunately, what caused the deaths of the Mexican recovery team is not known. Speculation ranges from a chemical released from the disc as a result of the damage due to mic grow biological agents. There are no indications of death or illness by any of any of the American recovery team. It would not have been illogical for the recovery team to have taken one of the bodies back with them for analysis, but there is no indication that having of that having happened. Perhaps they did not have adequate means of transporting what might have been a biologically contaminated body. Yeah, it just nuked everything, right, Yes, man, that seems to be the way to do it. I guess if you're going to release it, because I think we're both of the same mind that they released a biological agent before they even got to the something. Yeah, and then they came in prepared. Yeah, just like you said, your your suitcase, nuke clean that area up, destroyed. That's a that's a lot of heat to kill any Yeah. Yeah, I read that. I did. I didn't get specs or anything, but they said high explosives would not have uh totally decontaminated the area. However, a nuclear device would have been hot enough to you know, cook any any sort of biological agent that was left. Right, So they're like, it's not C four, They're not going to use C four for traditional you know, black powder ammunition. But yeah, man, wow, you blew my mind when you said that. It's like a nuke. That makes so much sense. Yeah, that's ballsy. That's like straight up ballsy too. And you know, sovereign another sovereign nations, you know, territory. Yeah, I mean, I mean and with the with the so I didn't get too in depth into the the you know, these tactical nukes, but they you know, set off as much radiation as a regular duke obviously, So I mean maybe even sometimes when you do set one of these off, no one will even know that, you know, a nuclear device had just been detonated. Yeah, it kind of makes sense. And they're they're in an open desert, right, It's it's not very populated. That little village is like I think today it's like nine hundred people living in and it was like maybe twenty five hundred at the time. And they were miles away, so yeah, they were like thirty miles away or something like that. Yeah, so definitely could do that, right geez. I mean it's a wild story. It is a wild story, definitely. I mean, there's just like a couple of follow up things here, let's see, okay, okay. Inquiry into the FAA revealed no documents concerning the civilian air aircraft crash, probably because it did not involve a US aircraft nor did it occur over US airspace. It should be noted that the above facts do not tell the complete story. Nothing is known of the analysis of the craft or its contents. Nothing is known about the deaths associated with the foreign recovery team, nor is it known if this craft was manned or not. Other questions also remained, such as why would a recovered disc be taken to Atlanta and where did the disc come from? It was first detected approximately two hundred miles from US territory, yet US air defense extends to a much greater distance than that. If the object descended into the atmosphere, perhaps NORAD space tracking had some has some record of the object, and alternate possibility is that it entered the Gulf of Mexico under radar limits, then jumped up to seventy five thousand feet. Considering prior behavior exhibited by disks of this size, it is probbable that the entry was from orbital altitude, and the facts that are known have been gathered from two eyewitness accounts, documentation illegally copied, and a partially destroyed document. This was done in nineteen seventy eight by a person who is now dead. Only in February of this year did the notes and documents come into the hands of our group. End of document. Wow, Yeah, that's it. Wow, that's a pretty in depth report. And right, I don't know how would they you know, I guess sixteen foot wide. I mean it's a wide load. And I'm sure they would maybe box that to take it on the interstates to get it to the CDC, because that's that's not like a secure location like an army base or military base, right right, it's like on you know, it's just yeah, it was in a it said it was in a box. You know, some type of box truck that could that could seal it tight. Yeah, and it would be a wide load, I would imagine, And I don't I mean the road were like back then either, so it might have the easier to move seventies interstates. Yeah, I mean maybe there was a back backway to the CDC back then. I don't, I didn't. Yeah, I wouldn't even know. All I know is I've been to Atlanta in the traffics of mass man, I don't think I've ever been that's that's today. Yeah, it's a it's a it's the worst, dude. But you know, seventy four you have a point. You know, obviously the growth wouldn't have been anywhere near the last twenty years, you know, Yeah, so maybe that was more doable. Maybe I could see it back in that time frame for sure, maybe getting a wide an over sized load into the edge of downtown or wherever that is exactly. But yeah, that's that's the only part I have a hard time with. I think everything else, I think it's feasible, and I think the information is there that I mean, like the nuke just makes so much sense, definitely, Like that's that just makes so much sense to me. I think it makes zero collaborate makes a lot more sense when they talk about people being sick, yeah, entering that area, and I know in that it goes in depth, more in depth into that. But I wasn't able to read that part. No, you know, that's all I kept coming up with. I needed to change my probably my uh my browser, my search engine, that's all they kept giving me. Right, Yeah, when I searched it, I didn't. I didn't find that the report. I I searched the name of the report and it popped up, which I mean I only got that from that other show that I listened to. So thanks thanks to them. Yeah, for sure, Uh that that really does make the story. It really, there's more depth to it, for sure. That's just it's a mind bender because like I said, I think this is all doable. I don't know about the CDC, but the government does all kinds. So they get away with you know, they know what they're doing. It probably is as feasible as the rest. But yeah, man, the whole recovery team thing, we know there's a unit. There's got to be a special unit that does this. They probably drill once a month, once a week. I don't know. But they're on their They're on their game, dude. I mean, that's just they got their stuff together for sure. Geez to mention when they when the team was waiting, they were going to go and then they had to wait for more gear. If they were waiting for uh, a specialist in UH you know, biological warfare is what they were waiting for. Wow. So and I think it's really telling. Like you said in the the beginning when we started the pod, you know this episode is you said, Man, they were willing to almost it seems like this would be international incident type stuff like risk war to get to grab this package at any cost. I'm not sure if I read it or not. I know there was a part in the report where he was talking like it said something like you know, the CIA was like, you have to get this no matter what the cost is. You know, if you have to, you know, start a firefight. But I can't remember if I read that or not. But yeah, there was a point where they were like, you know, you have to get this and it doesn't matter whether you have to shoot them all dead or not. You know, you got to get this one way or the other. Just wow, dude, Yeah, I mean, this is this is a banger. This this story. You brought it, you brought the the heat on this one. Dude, this is this is this is a banger for sure. I'm telling you. This is almost exactly like the Virginia, Brazil incident. However, you know there wasn't a firefight or there wasn't you know, a biological agent. Well I guess there was because the aliens apparently that were running around the city, they were poisonous to some sort of newly like you like, like you mentioned that officer in Brazil. He got scratched and he ended up dying of an unknown virus or infection. But but yeah, at the end of that, you know Brazil, they gather up the air the the downed aircraft and all these you know, bodies of the dead aliens, a couple of live ones, and then unannounced, the US government lands. You know, they land, They get on a helicopter, they fly over to this you know Virginia that it's a large town. They fly over there and they just pick everything up, put it on their you know, fly back, put it on their their their cargo plane, and they fly. They probably big old globe master or something, and and we you know, what's Brazil do. There's got to be an agreement, like they paid them off or something. But yeah, that's the easiest. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Here's here's some money. Don't ask questions ever. Again, don't ask us about this, right right? But but yeah, when when Grush was talking, you know, in in in uh whatever he was in that oversight here, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he mentioned he specifically mentioned, you know, there's biologics, they have bodies of these aliens. I don't know, I kind of it all kind of fits together in my mind, and I definitely feel like this this happened. Uh maybe you know, our government, maybe they just took out the Mexican team, or maybe that they did die of mysterious illnesses, viruses or whatever, I don't know, but one way or the other, we got this craft. And I do believe it's some sort of craft. Whether it's alien or breakaway society, I'm not exactly sure yet, but I have my suspicions that it is, h you know, some kind of breakaway society that that's operating outside of everybody else. That's one of my big things. That's one of my theories to man, the whole breakaway civilization, the deep the deep, deep black budget programs. I mean, they're they have totally different technology than we do. Have you ever heard Base two eleven? Huh? Huh no, oh, man, we should do this that. Uh. It's like before World War Two, you know, the Nazis they were they were going down into I believe it was anti and they're just like, okay, okay, it's an Antarctica thing. So it's like this, you know, World War two, they're they're losing and they're like ship they they build this base in Antarctica and they all go down there and they're all like, you know, living underground. It's kind of like they made a pact with you know, I don't know if they're aliens or hollow earth people. You know, I don't know what it is, but it involves like this special base and they got like these foo fighters and Admiral Bird went down there and he he came back with his tail tuck between his legs and I think, yeah, yeah, right after World War two and he stopped and I don't know if it was Argentina or something. He talked to a reporter and said, they've got something that can fly pull to full pole, hole to pole north to south Pole in like an hour. He's like, how do you defend against that? And then they put him in when he got debriefed, didn't they put him in like a psych ward for a year or two. I have no idea. I do know his stories because I want to be a believer in in Hollow Earth. I love I love those stories so and he plays sure for sure, but I just wish there was more. I mean, I hear, you know, and I can never really track. I can't get a footing, you know, and all these oh dude, not too long ago they were sending like the head of the Orthodox. I don't know if it was the Russian Church or the Greek Orthodox. Putin went down there. Kerrie went down there, Obama went down there like all these I think one of the astronauts went down there from like the Apollo missions yep, a couple of years ago. You remember when that was going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wonder you know. Geez yeah, you just based two one to eleven? Is that what they called it? Yeah? Two eleven? Well there was eleven. I just want to add this really quick. There was after World War Two there was this thing they called Operation High Jump where the military, our military went to Antarctica supposedly to do Arctic training, but who knows, you know, who knows what. Maybe they're trying to break into two eleven. Well, isn't that was that the Admiral Bird flotilla went down there. I'm not sure. I don't know. I just operated. Yeah that's wild. Yeah, maybe we need to dig into that a little bit. Yeah, hotly, crap, you got you got me all like sparked up, dude. I'm like, god, so excited. I was like, oh Antarctica. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's another one right there. People eat that up. People like caring about that, especially me. You know, I like caring about it too. But I gotta tell you Nick this, this was a really really good one that I didn't I never got as much information as you you got. You know, kudos to those guys. That's great, But that that report really kind of gives it some depth man, for sure. Yeah it does. And it's just like probably like Kexburg was or you know, down there in Brazil like you were talking about. You know, it's just kind of that same modus operandi that we get teams in there and get it out man naked he split. Yeah, Jad, I had a good time. I was half the time. I'm just just I'm just listening, dude. I'm like the audience. I was like, no way, yeah, no, no, thanks a lot for coming on. That was fun. Yeah, I appreciate it, dude. That was great. I get bored talking to myself sometimes, so it's always nice to have something. It's nice to bounce stuff off people, Yeah for sure. Right. So yeah, before you get off, you want to like tell people how they can find your stuff. Yeah, sure, I appreciate it, dude. Yeah. So I've got a pod Crazy Strange Days d A Z d A y S. That's kind of like the Paranormal Ghosts UFOs Fringe News with a co host m and it's like a geopolitical current events types of things like that, maybe bordering on like I mean, the slogan's like yesterday's conspiracy theories, today's news, you know, something like that. But and then I've got another one that's ay, it's chasing bad and that's the one we did Phil Schneider and Dulce on. Yeah, it's it's me and a buddy. It's usually serial killers, true crime and then conspiracy theories and sometimes we drink, so that's there's. Yeah, there's some swearing. Some some shows turn out really good. Some are just two dudes having a good time. Man. That's about it. Yeah, man, and uh anytime I'm available in my man, it's it's been a blast. This this this blew me away. The nuke. I can't get my head around lake biological agent that we probably released and then nuking everything to clean it. That's just brilliant. There's some lives lost, but you know, think about it, man, it's just wild. It seems like something we would do. You blew my mind a little bit. Yeah, definitely, that's a trip. Thanks a lot, Nick, Yeah, man, no, thanks for coming on. I know I know we had planned to do something else and I kind of just like switched it up at last minute. So thanks for working with me, no problem, dude, And uh I look forward. You know, if you want to do the the Irish Pantheon, that's something you turned me on too as well. I just I found that very super interesting that I never really delved into that. So yeah, I don't think too many people have got that out. Maybe. Yeah, no, I think that's that's probably a banger. Definitely. Yeah. Let me know, man, I'll do it with you anytime. Yeah. I mean, if if you're gonna do it, then we're gonna have to do it soon. Oh yeah, yeah. St Patty's okay mine? Should we have should we have green beer? Yea? All right, thanks for coming on, No, no problem, but it I mean I had a fun I had a fun time, perfect, all right. Yeah, just let me know what you want to be doing here in the future. Okay, Yeah, no, okay, thank a, right, thanks for coming on. Yep, you got it. We'll talk all right. That was crazy, strange days, and that was fun. It was fun. I know, like like we had mentioned, uh a couple of times, we're gonna do, you know, Irish Irish folklore, you know, like the the to a Day, you know, leprechauns, fay folk, that that sort of thing. But then, you know, I'm listening to this other podcast and they're talking about this this UFO that crashes and this recovery team that rushes in and the dead Mexican soldiers, and I was like, whoa, wha, whoa, whoa, whoa. I gotta I gotta look into this. You know, I had a blast doing uh the Vargeenia incident, and I was like, I gotta, I gotta check this out. So I'm looking up this this this down uh uh ufo in the the Hihuahua Desert, and I'm like, oh man, I don't know if I can do folklore this week. So you know, I I email him and I was like, dude, would you mind doing this this UFO incident and instead, And he was like, oh yeah, yeah, no problem, no problem. And and he really really he he was he was really cool about it. He actually he worked with me with it. You know, I felt bad changing the subject on him after he spent this time reading about uh, you know, faith folk but but but this was fun. I'm glad that he that he was on. Check him out Crazy Strange Days. Uh, that that's the show that I know him from. Check it out. It is a good show. I've listened to several episodes, you know. Like, like I said before, I'm a postal driver and I'm always listening to podcast and he's a go to whenever that, you know, a new episode drops. I have, like I don't know what twenty twenty shows that I follow, so whenever there's an episode drops, you know, I gotta listen to the new episode. I don't even know where I found him, must have been something I searched. But yeah, dude, I'm glad I found his show. I'm glad that he agreed to come on. That was awesome. That was fun. I really liked that story, and I hope you liked it too. And don't forget to rate and review the show. You know. I think I went a couple of episodes without saying anything. But yeah, you know, if you're listening to the show, stop listening for one second, scroll to the bottom of your screen, leave a five star rating or whatever rating you feel is adequate. Uh, And if it's not five stars, then then you can just get the fuck out of here. Sorry. I don't know. I don't know where that came from. Uh, but yeah, leave a five star rating review, a nice, pleasant review that I can read and not cry out all night. It'd be really I'd really appreciate it. So from the bottom of my heart, I would appreciate the hell out of it if you left me a five star rating and a glowing review, and also go check mix workout at Crazy Strange Days and his other shows. I'm telling you you won't regret it. And that sounds almost cannon to me.

