Hey, everyone, welcome back to Crazy Strange Days. Supernatural. Episode three will be gonna excuse me, We're going to be combining episodes four and five of the TV series Supernatural. So if this is your first time hearing this, we kind of it's one of our guilty pleasures that a couple of years ago we just binge the whole thing over winter and we found it to be really cool. The subject matter. You know, if you dig on cryptids, you like ghosts, you like everything, but aliens and yeah, but that's more of a trickster. Yeah, but that's that's I can't wait for that episode actually, because it's pretty funny. And if you're a Christian, don't get beat out of shape too much, because again, this is just a TV show and they do have like you'll hear some episodes where Odd makes an appearance, but not Jesus, so don't you know, don't come at us too hard because we are Christians too. But as we said before, if they brought Jesus and there wouldn't be much. So it's about a couple brothers and probably you know already, so I'll dispense with that background. If you're not a fan like I said, there's we're going to be breaking down all the batties in each episode that they cover. Because it's wild. You'll like it. And if you're a fan of Supernatural, hopefully you like it too, because you kind of relived, you know, we rehashed the episodes for it, and be like, I haven't seen that in ten years. Maybe I'll I'll bede it and you'll have something to do for the winter besides listening to us. But we're gonna get right into it. Episode four. It's called the Phantom Traveler. Yeah, and what we'll read the Son from supernaturalfandom dot com. A phantom traveler attacks Sam and Dean on an airplane on trans national flight twenty four eighty five. A man possessed by the spirit of the Phantom Traveler causes the plane to crash, leaving only five survivors left alive. Sam and Dean must exercise the angry spirit before it attacks the survivors. The brothers realized the only way to do this is to take the battle to the skies. And so there's some comic relief. I guess you'll call it. The brother Dean is terrified of flying. He doesn't like flying. They had to go up to see the demon and see who it was possessing. So basically, like it possessed a passenger, the passenger was able to rip off the door, you know, at thirty thousand feet or whatnot. You know, the air pressure sucked them out and basically made the aircraft crash. And like it said, there was five survivors in this spirit, which appears to be a black mist will basically go in there, yeah, into their body and possess them that you know, their eyes will turn black and they'll go about boarding or piloting or whatever it is. They're going to do their role on the on the plane. And in the episode, they did discover the black box and they heard a sound that sounded demonic, and basically I think it said something like no survivors left or something. So its goal is it wants since it didn't kill everyone in the flight, it wants to kill the remaining five. Yeah, And then there was certain so one of the in one of the episodes or not Sorry, one of the episodes, in one of the storylines, it was one of the survivors was I think the co pilot, and somebody convinced him to go up and fly again, just like a little p pane, and I guess the plane went down forty minutes into flight. Yeah, and then when the copilot took this small prop plane up, it also went down because it possessed the co pilot and or maybe the co pilot's friend or somebody on it was possessed and it went down forty minutes. One of the pilots and Sam commented that, you know, forty is a biblical number, and it does appear several times in the Bible. I mean there's a he commented on the forty days forty nights, you know, Noah had. But there's a couple other stories I heard recently just listening to some other things, Coach. We all know about Moses. You know, when he freed the people from Egypt. They said that they were supposed to make it to their destination I think in eleven days, but it took forty years because it disobeyed God. Get the whole golden calf when he was up, and yeah, so he made him wander the wilderness for forty years to punish them. A story I just heard the other day about Jonah was sent him a nerve, I believe, and it said he wandered up and down the streets, trying to warn people that the city was going to be destroyed in forty days. And then there's of course the story of Jesus in Matthew. It says he was led by a spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil and after fasting for forty days and forty nights, So multiple iterations of forty. I'm pretty sure there's others, but yeah, and I never really followed that, like forty was a big thing in the Bible. Of course, you you know Moses, you know, free by the Pharaoh, they left Egypt. But yeah, I found that pretty interesting. And I don't really understand the connection to like a demon, like why it would be forty minutes. Yeah, but I'm really not sure. I mean, I guess it's kind of thin in there too. They're just trying to throw something something in the plot line. Yeah, but so this is obviously a possession story and probably try to connect good and evil since it was a demon possession. Oh but you know, good stories. And this is like the beginning of the overall the major story arc through the fifteen Seasons is you know, got a devil. Yeah, you know, essentially, but you know, all the individual episodes are you know, super fun and yep, yeah, very enjoyable. Yeah. But he did comment on that one flight that maybe this kind of he was alluding to, right that flight four oh one, like you said, oh yeah, so like four oh one, it's a famous flight. It was I think it was leaving New Jersey or New York down to Miami or yeah, somewhere in Florida. But the crash did happen in the ever so it had to be in southern Florida and it's a trip and it was a famous case. They made like a and I remember seeing this when I was like six or seven. I think I lived in Tennessee. It was it made for TV movie and it was wold. Uncle Johnny lived with us. I was visiting. But what regardless, it was a long time ago, but it's a super famous you know, it was a brand new aircraft. It was the aircraft was owned by Eastern Airlines, which does not I don't believe it exists anymore. Flight four oh one, and it crashed in the Everglades in seventy two, nineteen seventy two. It was a Lockheed L ten eleven Dash one Trystar and it was from New York to Miami. And what happened is they kept getting a like a warning light, an indication a faulty indication light come up, and so they they they put it an autopilot. And the one story that I remember is that it was like the stick was nudged or something when this flight end. And I don't know if it was the flight engineer or co pilot when it got up to get out, because the flight engineer was going to go down into the belly of the aircraft. I forget what they call it. They have a weird name for it, like the pit or something to check on I believe landing that like the front landing gear that indicated light, so you had to manually do something. And someone bumped it and didn't realize that it was like a slow descent and you couldn't you couldn't you know, you couldn't tell. Yeah, they until it was too late, so they lost altitude and crashed. And it it's kind of crazy because seventy five people actually survived this, and I believe there was a Jet Blue or another maybe not this large of an air This was like the first wide body aircraft to ever crash. But there was a Jet Blue that went down in the Everglades. It's like a magnet. I guess, I don't know. But like I said, seventy five people survived, but one hundred and one people died, including the captain, an engine, the flight engineer that was down in the hole. That must have sucked. No, that sucks anyhow, but excuse me. So it was the first crash involving the Lockheed Trystar, and they were around for a long time. They have like the engine in a tail and an engine on each wings, you know, so Trystar I guess that's where they get it. And like I said, it was the first wide body aircraft any any kind to crash as well. It was the second deadliest plane crash in the US in US history at the time, but now it's like pushed down to sixteen, which is geez, yeah, forty fifty years. So the aircraft wreckage, they were able to get out in the swamp and salvage a lot of it. The galley an elevator. The galley meaning like where they prepared meals, because back then then I mean they if you look, I mean you would get full meals on flights like that. Yeah, a lot of breakfast or dinner. I remember getting offered like chicken or fish. Just crazy, you know, you don't it's like you're lucky to get some peanuts or something. So they were able to salvage a lot of this and get them into other dry stars in the fleet as things you know, wear and tear, right, I mean constantly. Maintenance is constant on these things, you know, obvious for safety reasons. And then you know, putting a galley or pieces of the kitchen like a microwave or whatever. They had to heat these mules up, and that comes into part of the story. So it's a belief that these parts might have been haunted. Right, so as they're getting installed in other planes as replacement parts, planes started having problems. There were a couple flight attendants that survived. Some of the crew. I think like six or seven of a thirteen person crew survived, and they actually rotated back into the fleet into you know, their job, which is insane. I don't think I would get back on a plane. I mean, if you're flying it, it's one thing, right, you're in control. Even though you crash, you'd probably get back. But these were some brave ladies. Man, I would not be like doing it again. So they people started seeing Bob and Dawn. So Bob was the pilot or the co pilot, and Don was the flight engineer standing in aisles in the cockpit. Which there's a crazy story in the galley, and I remember the gap. Someone someone saw Bob's face in the reflection of the oven, like the glass front, like the glass door of an oven. They saw his reflection and you know, double take look again, and still saw it, like just his face. And so she went and got another stewardess, the flight attendant. I guess stewardess is not correct anymore. And she was like, holy crap that because these people know each other. Yeah, and they grabbed the pilot. The pilot came and he knew him person, you know, like they used to fly with them. Yeah, and they were friends. And what he said once the pilot and they all three were sitting there, there's going to be a fire on this plane basically, and there's going to be a fire on board. Watch out for fire in this plane. And this was a flight I think to Mexico City. And they landed safely, but prior to landing, there was a fire in one of the engines, and so they were able to land and they what happens is like another flight crew. There's a crew that just does this. They take damaged or mechanically unsound aircraft and they fly it back to the States or Boeing or whoever to have them fixed. Yeah, they're like the skeleton crew, and they're probably really good pilots or whatever. They get paid really probably get paid three. It's like hazardous duty. Yeah, so they check over their aircraft to make sure it's you know, they can fly it. But once they got into the air they discovered more difficulties and another engine caught on fire, and then the cope the co pilot appeared to talk speaking to them on the black box. This is the crazy part when they examined the black box, because this plane actually had to crash land. Yeah, and they hear him talking them down on the landing what to do, what's going to happen. They hear his voice on the voice recorder and they land safely. And when like I said, they land safely, they crash land at a small airport somewhere, and the investigators were like totally amazed. They said it would have been impossible to land this aircraft in its state, and they can only essentially give all credit to you know, Bob, to the spirit that help. Yeah, crazy, and that plane obviously had pieces at the galley, I think, and actually in the story the supernatural story, they kind of comment on that too, saying that there was parts of a you know, crash plane used in the plane that went down in the original story. So so it basically follows this flight four A one story. Yeah, four A one's crazy. Some people may want to dig down into it more deep because there's just a ton. There's like a ton of stories. Yeah, And that's part of the reason why we kind of like the show too, because the writers are pretty good and they think their decent amount of research, so coming up with their stories, they try to piece things together. Either it's a whole of one story or pieces of different stories. So that's what made it interesting to us. Yeah, and another interesting one. Returning back to this galley, another flight attendant saw an engineer fixing the oven. She asked the flight engineer later about the oven and he said he hadn't fixed it and it didn't need to be fixed, so who was, you know, monkeying around. But there's a ton of stories and someone wrote wrote a book and someone there was a whistleblower that said, like a mechanic that worked for the company Eastern Airlines, right yeah, and he said that, yeah. Well no, he came across the storage room and it had like all these like pristine, like good parts for the Trystar and he asked, like, what are what are these? So what happened after a couple of years of this stuff, you know? And of course the CEO with the company and all the officers were like now because I think there wasn't even like an officer, a corporate officer, I don't know, vice president or whatever. Flew on a flight with one of these salvage things and saw the captain like sitting in like one of the aisles and went up to talk to him, and he figured, oh shit, the guy's dead. Yeah, and he wasn't responding. He's just kind of sitting and flying in a uniform. But they wouldn't, you know, a lot of like sixty minutes or news reporters would trying to get to the bottom of it because they thought it was gruesome, right, it was an air tragedy. There were a lot of people that lost family and they would deny it until, like I said, the mechanics said, what's all this stuff back here from the TriStar ten eleven whatever dash eleven, And so he blew the whistle on it. But they were reusing it and they had to fest and they so they took everything out of the fleet that was on four oh one, and everything kind of stopped. But this author got all these people to tell him their stories, and so it's hard to verify a lot of them, and I'm sure and he was like a sci fi writer or something. I can't remember what else he wrote. Yeah, but he became kind of famous for this, got turned into a movie, et cetera. But it's just a really wild just a wild story. Well you could see it being plausible because they obviously say when people die violently or quickly, when they don't realize they have died, sometimes they can they linger in the place that it happened. So you know, they're murdered in a home, and that home is haunted. So if they were murdered on that plane and those parts or died, yeah, and those parts are still intact, then their spirit could be stuck. So there's dozens of stories and so the Flight Safety Foundation has a quote from their report. The reports were given by experience and trustworthy pilots and crew. We consider them significant. The appearance of the dead flight engineer was confirmed by the flight engineer, So a flight engineer on the you know, off one of these flights. I was like, yeah, that's you know, that's my dude. And there's, like I said, numerous stories. But yeah, we didn't want to delve back into the possession because there's going to be plenty more possessions. Kind of I don't like talking about them, but we just had the wind to go, so we thought we'd take a different approach on this one and kind of give you ghosts in the air on aircraft. And I guess episode five is Bloody Mary and most people already know that story on everybody knows who Bloody Mary is. And if you I mean, I remember older girls when I was young. If I was over a buddy's house and there was a sleepover with girls, or there was more than two girls or one girl, they would be playing this. When I was a kid, it was like super scary when you're like seven, But if no one, So you're gonna read the synopsis from them? Yeah, they say the monster in the mirror. Yeah. In suburban Nebraska, a group of partying high school teens jokingly they're their friend Charlie to look into the mirror and repeat bloody Mary three times. That's one of the incantations, I guess, not knowing that this will unleash a series of mystery mysterious, mysterious murders. My bad. Sam and Dean realize that Bloody Mary has the power to travel through all reflective sir is when she is hunting a victim. Worried that the teens are accidentally summoning Bloody Mary, Sam in deed and raised to destroy the violent spirit before she can kill again. Excuse me, so bloody you know, Bloody Mary. Yeah. So after they call, after they do it, the girl goes, you know, to sleep and thinks, I don't okay, Everything's fine. They find that her her father had died and you know, it's like blood everywhere, and then later her mother overdoses on sleeping pills. So then she's freaking out that this is real and something. You know, this is not me just making this up. So then Sam and Dean step in to help her. And what, I uh, what always interested me was where did the legend come from? I mean, just about every American kids probably know someone or has played this games. So we did a little research and I actually have an episode Crazy Strange Stories. Episode eleven is all about Bloody Mary, the woman behind the Mirror. So Bloody Mary the woman behind the Mirror. It's interesting and there's some candidates that they discuss that I find it's pretty cool to track this down. Marry the First of England. Of course, it was Henry the Eighth's daughter, and she was a staunch Catholic. Henry the Eighth, everybody knows, created the Church of England so he could keep murdering and marrying women. I guess so he could actually legally legally divorce from the church perspective. Yeah, so the Pope wouldn't let him, so he threw a fit and created his own church so he can keep marrying to get that son. And she wasn't quite She's not like I don't know why they called her Bloody Mary. I mean, I know, but it's not as if she was even as bloody as her father or monarchs before. Yeah, I mean we're talking she's she basically executed three hundred plus Church of England. You know, there was a bit of a civil war going on over Catholicism and the Church of England. So all the old Catholics rose to her defense, and there were leftovers from the Church of England that liked you know, I guess priests that we're able to marry now and have a wife, you know, or whatever. These changes were, these instrumental changes. I mean, obviously the church probably did need some reformation. Catholic Church needs it today. But so she's responded. This why they call her Bloody Mary. She killed three hundred Catholics, priests and Catholics or excuse me, church angler. She was a Catholic. So that's one candidate. The next I find really interesting. It's Elizabeth Bathory, a Hungarian. I can't remember what she is, A like a countess, I suppose is the equivalent a noble woman. She was a countess. Now her story is a bit more just like vampirism. You know, she was accused of a lot of different things. Yeah, killing up to six hundred young girls, young women, young women basically, and she was accused of bathing in their blood because she thought it would make her look more youthful and give her more youths. So the story says, yeah, yeah, because I think I watched it on her where they actually said she would a lot of times take poor girls who you know, would work, they thought they were getting a job to work for her, and she'd keep them tied up and she'd bleed them. Yeah, she needed to bathe in the blood of virgins, you know. And she These killings supposedly were from fifteen ninety to sixteen ten, so you kind of get a reference in time. And there's a lot of talk that after her husband died and she was obviously you know, left all his holdings and he was a he was a powerful nobleman. Yeah, and that was probably around the time where they were still kind of having problems with the Austrian Empire, the Habsburgs, Yeah, because they still wanted to be independent. They didn't want to be you know, they didn't want to long chin yeah, the giant nose and moonchinned yeah too. But so she was very powerful. She had she was very wealthy, a large landowner because of her father and the King of Hungary actually or not father, but husband. The king actually owed her and her husband like a fortune he couldn't pay back, And it was probably because of these wars and the Hungarian independence. I'm taking a poke at that around that time they were probably it was for war. Most likely could have been the Ottoman Empire. Usually when most of those like empires started, they were out of money. It was because of war. So you know, I guess men wouldn't follow her. They would have followed her husband. He would have had substantial, you know, soldiers, so it was easy for the king to, oh, yeah, she's a witch, she's a vampire, she's bathing in virgin blood. You know, they produced a diary that would talk about the villages where she got her victims, and you know, the king's paying off her royal guard or whatever guard. I'm totally sure that it was just a power grab. I mean, she may truly have done some of those things, but yeah, like you said, they could have also just been, hey, let's make her look bad so it's easier to take over her kingdom. And then you know, she may have not been liked by half of the the people that work for anyway. Maybe Yeah, you know, it goes if you're a peasant. Do you really you don't enjoy serfdom, so you'd roll for anything a weeks with a food, okay, well freedom. And then we have an interesting one Mary Worth. I believe England has a story of Merriworth themselves over here in the States. It alludes to a Puritan woman that was executed for witchcraft. And also obviously she wants revenge, right, I guess that's the motivator. Yeah, revenge against those killer well yeah, just anyone at that point. It's just an angry spirit, right, Yeah. But also a woman that was either pretending to be part of the underground railroad in killing slaves essentially in some like they talk about babies, but or just playing, you know, turning them back over to the slave owners to get paid, Yeah, to get the rewards. So that's your three most likely in Merriworth. It's really not, there's no there's always a different story with her. But you know, the Countess Elizabeth Bathory is the one, the Hungarian countess that kind of sticks with you because it's something that maybe you would be like, yeah, for sure, if anybody's going to have evil powers in the afterlife, you know, it's probably her. She's got that Gina chrome Gina chrome, yeah or something, that's what she's thinking. Yeah, so her and Hillary Clinton evidently, but also in the show that they comment on the fact that it's in a mirror because they said mirror mirrors draw in spirits. It said when someone died, what they typically that's why they would cover it with sheets so that it wouldn't come out while they held the body in state or whatever. Yeah, so it was usually the house you put your deceased loved one in the parlor. Yeah. Yeah, before there was funeral homes, everybody was the dead body was in your home. They cover them all and they covered the mirrors with the sheets so that the spear wouldn't go into the mirror to hide until they could view the body, bury the body and everything was good. Yeah. Those mirrors and owls like statue My mom used to have statues, little figureines of owls everywhere, and that used to because you know, the owls the eyes represent the spirit world or something yea Indians Nat, I don't remember. And then the mirrors of course used to freak me out their portholes and plus if you're you know, sneaking out of the house, at night or sneaking in back into the house as a teenage boy, you see something in the mirror it's probably you, and it freaks you out. Yeah, it's a bit unsettling until you get your wits. But so and I actually liked that episode. They're Bloody Mary episode episode five. I think it's cool because they you know, not to be too much of a spoiloiler, but it is a very old show, so cut us, cut us a break here. But like how it's able to travel through mirrors is nuts, and there's like a master mirror. Yeah, yeah, and I can't remember the rest of that story seconds. It's not much of a spoiler, but you know, anywhere they go you could be hunted, you know. But hey, a little flat, I guess. But we're still getting the hang of this one, and we find them interesting, so we're going to keep bringing it. We appreciate you for being here. I hope you enjoyed it. Five star, rate and review, subscribe, We appreciate you. We'll see you with some news with m soon. Those are like my favorite episodes to do. And I got to calm down because I talk over her way too much. I get all fired up. She gets me fire sar up Man leaves my train of thought a lot because I'm angry, but those are super fun to do and we'll see you next time. Good Night, The Lady naybody d D excluding
