CSD Supernatural EP-2 (Wendigo #2 & A Water Spirit #3).

Hello everyone, and welcome back to Crazy Strange Days Supernatural as we follow the Winchesters the Boys as they track down the Batties and the Beasties across these United States, and our favorite junk food for the brain, you know, just Binging in the winter. Just a really cool series that has cryptids and demons and devils and bad guys and angels and even like God makes Nephalom a half budded appearance, which you know, no heyesus though, because that would ruin the show. But we find it intriguing in a lot of fun and I hope you guys do too, because if you're hear then you probably know about Supernatural. But if you're here, you know about Crazy Strange Days, and maybe you know you might want to watch Supernatural the series. So let's go ahead, m bust outs episode two and three for us, because we're going to combine these two. Episode two is really what we're going to focus on because it's in the series Supernatural. This is episode two for us, but we're gonna combine because episode three of Supernatural, it is kind of that it's another vengeful spirit, right, it's just kind of short. We don't think we need to dive too much into the character because or the supernatural entity, if you will, just because it's something most people can identify and probably have some understanding, and so we wanted to start with the second episode, which is The wind to Go. Here's a summary from supernaturalfandom dot com. Basically, it says that campers are terrorized by the bloodthirsty Windigo. Sam and Dean follow the coordinates left by their left in their father's journal and land in the middle of the woods, where they investigate the disappearance of several campers. The two brothers soon learn that they are dealing with a windigo, a creature made famous in Native American legends. A windigo is a former human who cannibalizes, whose cannibalism sorry has transformed him into a creature with supernatural strength and speed that feasts on human flesh. The story actually goes into saying that people end up going missing in this area every twenty three years, so it kind of goes through this cycle of where it hibernates and it wakes up. Yeah, they kind of and I don't know if that's true, and lore I don't. I mean, it's always depicted and the Wind to Goes scares the crap out of me, just like the I hate saying its name because you don't want to draw attention to it. The skin Walker and they're they're kind of similar in ways where they're a spirit, but they're encryptid. It's a little duality in Native you know, First Nations legends, and they give me the stinking hebe gbis, I mean demon's possession and certain Native First Nations folkal or just petrifies me. Then the Wind to Go is like up there in the top. So like the wind to Go they you know, if you go like Britannica or you know, these sites, they'll say that's a mythological creature. But I don't know if it's really mythological. I mean there's many, many cases. I mean from sixteen sixties Quebec, Quebec whatever, Quebec, France. But like a Jesuit priest writing about a possessed female, I think it was a female or a hunter that basically like was possessed by a wind to go didn't turn you can turn into a wind to go by, like the Dahmer party trying to get to California, you know, snowed in they started eating people because they had to y. Yeah, in the show, they said that, you know, he was once a man and there was a harsh winter and he became a cannibal to survive. So and they said, if you eat enough human flesh, you become less and less human over time, And that's how it was described. Yeah, for sure, there's a hook there that depravity and loss of humanity and consuming flesh of a fellow human like will turn you into like a ravenous creature that desires more. And it's always in the winter, it's cold, food is scarce, you know, and it's always these stories like a hungry spirit, you know, or you know when people become possessed, like they'll even eat their lips. They'll eat their own lips. So a lot of descriptions are like a lipless, gaunt, tall, pale red eyed humanoid creature. Didn't they say that they usually look at mask amazingiated like, so it looks starving like gallam but stretched out. Yeah, and you know, even like antlers, like the whole deer antler thing. I mean, could you imagine something eight to fifteen feet tall or even the size of a human man, you know, five eight six foot with like antlers and gaunt and looking like gallam kind of oh clammy and pasty and you know, trying to get you in the worlds seem like, I guess, real far out of the park if you think about it possibly being a possession, because you know, when we we're starting to dive a little more into nephelm and things of that nature. So doubt when you read about that, you know they well, Nephilim are right, the merger of angels and humans and the sons of God and the daughters of me. Yeah, and so you create a Nephilm, which were tended to be giant and stature, but they were also described as having six fingers, also described as double rows of teeth, hybreds, and they were cannibals. Yeah. Down the line, as they become less son of God, you know, the angel, the angelic being, they become highbreds, cross with animals, you know, even having sex with animals and creating hybreds could yeah, I mean nobody knows for sure, and some people think they did, you know, experimentation and to basically create hybrid am yeah, anything basically anything to defile God's creations. But originally the first nephilm they say, were yes, the children of angels and human women. And the depiction was often double rows of teeth, extremely tall, like a giant staff, and then the six fingers. So, but they were also cannibals, they said they they would eat men humans. So and then when when nephilim died, because since they were half human, they had a body that would die, whereas the angel side of them was you know, term, so they became spirit. So they became spirit. So they call nephilim arc. So anybody that's possessed by a demon is actually, according to gen six Genesis six, is possessed by a nephilum spirit. Yeah, because a nephyl or a demon is the disembodied spirit of a nephilom. So exactly, because they since they are they are also eternal in their spirit form. But they want to roam the earth and they can't do that without being in a physical form. Yeah, they want to eat, they want to fornicate, They want to if they were a human, you know, like solid, well, if they were there living with their living body, whatever trait they had and cruelty and depravity they will have when they possess so if they, oh, man, if they just loved killing cattle with their bare hands, you know, maybe that's but you get the Yeah, if they were serial killers, which it sounds like a lot of them just didn't give a crap about humans, thought they were garbage because God created us, so they would just kill. Yeah, So it's not a far stretch to assume or make the maybe connection that possibly, you know, windogoes are people that were you know, possessed by the demons spirit if it's a because it's half the stories are you can and you have to be in this a certain frame of or a state of spirit or mind, like on drugs or you know, anything like a Catholic or Catholics. So if you're drunk or you're on drugs, or you're weakened in any sort of way even mentally, and you could be what if you're starving, What if you've been starving and then you're going through these like you have these mind altering events because you're you're just going through in and out of conting, you know, whatever it is, and as you let your guard down, it can come in, you can take possession of you. And then if it liked to eat flesh when it was flesh, and they like to eat human flesh, then it would be like, oh money eat human flesh, but they use their new body to do it. Yeah, so you know, the wind to go is so just like many first nations. They're cryptids or I mean they I don't think they would call them cryptids, but they're boogeymen. They're you know, from a great grandfather, from a great grandfather traditions. They're verbal traditions. I mean, so many of them are so similar to like Gen six, like pre flood, after flood, and so many other traditions. I mean, there was a I mean it's pretty obvious there was a flood that affected I think probably ten thousand, five hundred years ten thousand, eight hundred years ago, I think just from the things that I've seen and read and listened to geologically, the proofs there in the terraforma, the layers, I mean, you can see there was a cataclysmic event somewhere around that time. Globally, so globally, almost every major religion around the world has a essentially at not even that, just cultures. Yeah, so you know, petroglyphs, hieroglyphs, gloat what is a go Beckley Tepe and Turkey is so stinking intriguing. So it's just interesting. We find it interesting that so many of them have similar stories about maybe you know, essentially good and bad, you know, basically, but like South America has the plume feathered lizard people, I guess, and then First Nations have the and what were they called they disappeared. They were like the Pueblo that built their civilization in a very desolate like hard to get water, hard to get food, hard to survive, like what you would call hard scrabble, you know, in the eighteen hundreds or whatnot and early nineteen hundreds. But that's where they built their societies. So these people disappeared though not like the Pleebleau, but they were cliff dwellers built how they just disappeared off the timeline. But their stories also talk about giants exactly, giants that eight people and there were lizards with halos and all these things they had. Well, they had giants, they had some people. They had wall etchings that showed what looked like the newspaper etchings on the walls. Yeah, they had things that looked like aliens. About what a thousand years before Christ to about thirteen hundred years after I can't remember three hundred. Yeah, so you know, Renaissance for Europe. But what we're basically trying to say is their stories also. I mean again, the drawing showed what looked like aliens, showed what looked like crazy, big headed like little aliens, and then like you said, lizards that had halos. So huh, that's kind of interesting because traveling in crafts. But again, you know, the devil essentially was a lizard, right, that's what Yeah, a seraphim seraphim does that mean? The word in Greek or Hebrew is like an adder, black skin, like a snake. Yeah, it's not a lizard, not a lizard, but a snake, a serpent whatever. And then if he was an angel, they would have had a halo. So it's kind of interesting, right, so you can have all these it's incredibly crazy. So going back to this episode, and yeah, we got in a little bit, we did, but alluding so let's circle back and basically saying so it's not very far cry to say, hmm, the window go could be a derivation of that story where and then again, if they are indeed Nephelom. I mean, that's our tak. That's a possibility. That's a possibility spirit. You know, there's always been spirits like you look at the you know, from the Middle East Arabic culture. They were created God created them, I guess before man around the after angels. So they're just always been what was it, I don't know. But they're not good, nor are they evil. They have free will. I guess the angels may not have really had free I don't know they had free will because well because that's why a third fell to mount Hermon. Yeah, a third fell because they chose to disobey but get it on with women. But so you know, again that's what again, that's something we just found interesting. As we're diving deeper into the we're finding then Felin very interesting and we're diving deeper into that. And never realized in the past that demons were the disembodied spirits. Yeah, I've ever knew that until again reading a description, as he said on Britannica that some people do describe windigoes as a spirit, a demon spirit that possesses someone. So you know, is it and you know that what it is? That's why you know who were we listening to. He actually said that that's why that Native Americans, a lot of them that convert to Christianity, is because there's a lot of similarities in their belief systems, especially the Old Book. Yeah, because again we talked about they have a flood story, they talk about giants, they talk about God, they talk about so they said, it's not a far cry from their ancient beliefs that was passed down from ancestor to ancestor. So they it's very easy for them to become Christians because they're like, this is pretty similar to our belief patterns. You know, maybe the names were slightly different, but and that's why that you know, some that don't you know, convert to Christianity really they don't shun Christian first Nations because of the similarities and beliefs. Yep. And that begs that, you know, to even go further down the rabbit hole, like there's common there's a lot of commonality between the belief systems, especially the Old Testament, which like kind of is all around the world if you really dig into it, it's really it's something that really, you know, I haven't really like we're in the beginning of our journey. Yeah, really we are. So it's hard to speak any further than you know this. I'll say that. Well, I mean I'll give something else too, like I forget who it was, if it was Eli Marzouli or somebody else that said, you know, stories of in the past, like if you watched older movies where they had the old Cowboy and Indian movies, a lot of times they would raise their hand and say how and oh yeah, people would say, oh, that's what that was just their greeting, and they said, no, they actually did do that, but it wasn't their greeting. They wanted you to show their hands, especially like if they the Northwest out west. Yeah, they wanted to see your if you had six fingers, if your six fingers and essentially the nephil fingered in red hair and like night foot tall, they're gonna like, yeah, so that's why the hands were shown, because we were looking for a finger count. Yeah, isn't that interesting? Holy crap? And you know Nephelm had six fingers and double rows of teeth. And then we get into the whole Smithsonian stealing giant bones in the Victorian eighteen eighties and hiding eighteen sixties. Yeah, coming out. As soon as they're an article went in the local, they got back to New York or wherever it went DC. I don't know. I heard the one guy was listening to said that what the Smithsonian did was because if they tried to buy the bones, the local museum said no, because it was you know, a big, you know, attention drawer for them and bring if you're a farmer and you find something that's ten foot tall and it's got some armor or you know, really strange because those mounds were everywhere. Yeah, but what they said is that, you know, they would try to get it. They tried to buy it, but sometimes they weren't able to because they would whoever, the museum or somebody would say no. So what they would end up doing is, they said, sometimes they'd buy the building and buy the entire display, everything, and then they would disassemble it all, sell it or whatever, and then only keep the bones. Yep. Yeah, so that's how they got around if people wouldn't give up the bones. I mean, it's amazing to me that these mounds were. We've been to Kahokia and that is amazing. That is just and all it is is a it used to be more I guess in a step pyramid earth work shape. But all through even up to from that site, it's across the Mississippi into Illinois. I mean you can see the skyline of Saint Louis and evidently it had a population and they found at that site things from South America, like seashells from the Pacific, seashells from the Atlotia, Illinois Coahokia. You can see the skyline, you know, they had they were growing maize and they had like sixty thousand people just around that site on the Mississippi River, and then whatever spilled up through like Missouri into Missouri, the Missouri side where Saint Louis is, they just like bulldozed that crapover and built buildings and stuff. They had people all through the valley that that fertile valley where the Mississippi you know ran. It's really truly amazing. They were even saying the outer communities and they built huts. They didn't have like they weren't. They weren't like teepees and nomadic like the Plains Indians. They had trading they you know, and a lot of speculation. They came from the Ohio River like Pittsburgh Allegheny's is what the ancient word I forget what. I don't know if it's just Seneca or whoever. You know, from the Ohio side Pennsylvania side, that means like mountains of the giants. That's where all the giants lived. You know, they like the the snake and they said that they probably brought the technology with them whatever they learned from. Uh what are they called the Hopewell Indians, which isn't really because none of them will claim that we didn't build this. Oh you're talking about the Serpent Mountain Ohio. Yeah, they're like, we didn't build this. This was here long before us. It was by the giants. So there's there's the stories abound by in the Indian Native American culture about giants all over this country because there's so many Indian tribes and they all have giant stories. So you know, would they all just share notes and it's like his history. I mean they don't, That's what I mean, like, literally, don't fudge stuff. They Okay, legends are built upon a fact, probably built That's what I'm saying. They have wars with these things. Yeah, it had to be built on fact or some kind of real story, because again, were they sharing notes. I mean, if it wasn't, they had some They all had the same imagination then to come up with the same kind of being. And I forget what episode it is, but I did a tale of giants. It was I did an episode on Crazy Strange. I don't know if it was news or Crazy Strange Days, just stories whatever. Oh what's the cave? Ah, geez out West? I mean it only happened, gosh, you know, I'm a butt head. What's the Candahar Giant and the Cave Lock Lovelock Cave episode the CSN episode twenty eight The Candahar Giant and the Lovelock Cave a tale of giants? And I took both those stories because they're both about giants Kandahar meaning Afghanistan in recent more modern mm that supposedly are special forces. A giant there shot him in the face. They had to shoot him in the head. Manny's spirited dude. And you know then the love Lock Cave was a story related from and this is like she lived till it was a daughter of a chief out west. I can't remember where, but they burned them alive in the cave. They finally chased them. They had been fight these redheaded six you know, six fingered giants forever for a long time, and they had enough and it was more than just one tribe. So they cornered him in a cave what was left after this war of attrition over hundreds of years, and they burn them out. And when they would come out, and they built a big pila wood in front of this cave and started, you know, lighting it up, man, and when they come out, they'd kill them. The warriors would kill them. And she, you know, I think she lived into the nineteen hundreds and she wrote a little book about it, which is crazy, Like her father was there, you know, so what mid eighteen hundreds, yeah, or maybe I guess eighteen twenties or something. And then you know, Ellie Marzouli talks about the giants and he has some pictures and photographs about it, so it's they're real. But the thing is, I've seen millions, so many, so many, I know, and I always photos and articles like, I don't understand why they're hiding it because most of us don't question that there was dinosaurs rich, right, So dinosaurs are giant lizards essentially giant lizards, giant crocodiles, giant whatever. People are gonna think we're crazy, yeah, but I mean nobody questions that. Right. We all know dinosaurs exist and they're giant forms of what lived today, right, So why is it way beyond everybody's pace? But you wouldn't know about it if the Smithsonian was coming out every time you found, like a giant femur from some giant head with teeth in it. I know, But that's what I'm telling you, Like, there's obviously, but that's what I'm trying to say, there's more to the story because if you it's all about Darwinism, if you don't disagree that there was a dinosaur, then why would most people not Why would they think that it's it's a lie that there could have been giant humans? Right? I mean, if there was a giant lizard, then why couldn't there be giant humans? So if they're hiding it, why right, Because if there's evidence in newspapers and all over the world, there's newspapers, like you said, farmers in this country, all over this country have found giant bones and the Smithsonian comes and takes them. So why why do we want to hide it. One of the most fascinating cases is the island of Catalina off of California, Right, Marzouli was there. I mean a lot of people were there around in nineteen hundred. This guy, this professor, I can't you know, man should have did a little more homework, because it's really relevant that they have some they Marzouli claims to have some of the original photos or copies of the original photos that seemed to have gone missing in the sixties or seventies, you know, and those kid there's like that whole island supposedly was filled with these things. Yeah, because the natives kicked them off the mainlanland because they were getting eaten. Yeah, they you know, and there's stories of and a lot of people equate it to like Sasquatch and stuff. Mount Olympia or what is it, Mount Saint Helen's the tribes out there. I wanted to say Olympus for some reason. Well, the only thing that makes sense to me is kind of like La Morsuwi says, is that, you know, maybe they're the only reason why they would want to hide it is because again, like you mentioned, Darwinism, because if there was existence of giants, the only place you generally hear it or see it written is in the Bible. Yea, So then you would have to admit the Bible is real. But we know now that there are tribes in Hebrew, there are tribes of giants. And I always thought, man, God's cruel, he wants Moses and you know, David to go eliminate every living thing in this this region, whatever city state it is or whatnot. Kill every animal, kill every woman and child. It's because because the more research I've done, they were half breeds and Goliath. You know, Goliath had brothers, a whole nation of brothers, so they were all, yeah, like you said, a nation of essentially nephelim. The flood didn't take care of them all. Yeah. But so I mean that kind of logically makes sense, is that, you know, that's maybe the only reason why they because if they have, if you had to, if you admitted there were giants, you'd admit that the Bible at least has some truth to it, right, And then then if you admit that, then yeah, I don't know. I mean the age of Reason and all this. You know, when Darwinism came out the scientific method universities even today. You know, when these guys leave seminary to become Christian leaders and run churches, be a bit you know, I guess a bishop, I don't know, whatever it is that's not Catholic the equivalent there. They don't want to hear this crap is the Bible's no longer Christianity is no longer super you know, one like the Jews. One foot in the physical world, one foot in the supernatural world. Because I mean, if you believe in God, okay, you can't believe in other things like ghosts or spirits or oh no, that shit's you know, that's for uneducated people. Yeah. Well, like you said, the Bible is the most supernatural book in the world. And one of the reasons you still are drawn to the Catholic Church is the fact that they are the only ones that really still like they actually acknowledged a supernatural aspect of Christianity because they do extras and they're the only Christian you know that are good at it well, but the only one that really doesn't. You don't ever hear like Presbyterians going they have a procedure. Yeah, but you but people don't call Presbyterians or Methodists or Baptists. A lot of these people like that have possession problems in their whatever their family. They convert. They convert to Catholicism, which is really crazy, so they can get help. But then that church is so crooked in a broad bureaucracy and the biggest corporation in the world, and they hide the fact that they molest children. They just move priests around. It's hard to get behind that. Yeah, but they are a direct link to an older time of christian I'm not going to say to a disciple or any of this stuff, which you know, obviously they are, but it's been degraded. It's not its purest form. And that's one thing again we Christians, but the one thing we find hard is we're basically born again I guess, yeah, but I mean, but we've always been Christians. But it's finding a it's hard to find a church with an organization, yeah, where they actually talked about the real you know, the Bible in all of its aspects, not just what they want to talk about. We want to know about everything, yeah, you know, and and it's full of the supernatural stuff, which we enjoy, you know, because again we like Supernatural, we like Stargate, we like I mean, anybody that's lived long enough, Yeah, for sure, And anybody's lived long enough has had a really weird experiences. They can't. I mean, me and my mom had a ghost in our house, and I've seen other things when I was younger and more susceptible, probably astral you know, projection out of my body type crap hit the ceiling and I was like, oh crap, get back in your body, dude. You know, woosh like a roller coaster, you know. Yeah, And I'll give it like because I just listened to an interview with Ellie Marzouli and again talking about the demon possession and all this stuff. Remember that, I don't know, it might have been in the summer or year ago or whatever when that that guy ate that homeless man's face off the bass salts. Yeah, that was a long That was many years ago. Fifteen. I don't think it was that long. But regardless, there's a story of a man that supposedy was on bass salts and he ate the straight up like a zombie. Yeah, like a zombie. He ate this homeless man's face off. Now we were mortified. We're like, holy that was scary because I thought, Okay, bas Salts is coming to a town near you. Yeah, but I was like, I got it, even in this interview with more than carry a gun, you got to carry some other stuff like a stick of dynam Later, but in this interview with Elie Marzulli, he said, well, as soon as he read that, he said, I don't believe that. He goes, I don't believe that that was Basalts. He I think that guy was possessed. Yeah, because you never really heard it any other real examples that were quite as horrific. Yeah, with people on bath salts exactly. So he said, he goes, I never believe it. From day one, he goes, I kept checking the newspapers. Check because he goes, I want to see the see them report the you know, not autopsy, but the well they report you'd have to write that stuff up. Yeah, but they're gonna do it. They're gonna do a drug test on the guy and all these other things. So he's like, I was waiting for that report, and he goes. It was about a month later, and he goes on page sixty two of the newspaper or something's all the way at the back and he goes they found nothing, nothing in his blood. He had no drugs, no alcohol, no nothing. He goes, So, I I really don't know what bas salts. I thought it was a mixture of different like kerosene. No, I think bas salts is is ebsence salt. It's it's what you take a bath and smoke it. I don't know what they do, but but that's what he said. He goes, from the beginning, I thought they that guy I was demon possessed because he had to been, because you don't eat somebody's face off. Yeah, but somebody that's in the business might say that to sensationalize it. They might, but for clicks and views, you know, I'm always kind of like they might. But what other could I take that step? I don't know. Yeah, but what other explanation if the guy was not on anything, nothing at all, what would possess someone to attack drug on the street that we nobody else hears about ever? Again, But he said the guy had nothing in his system. He attacked a homeless man and he ate his face off. Yeah, they caught him in the act. Yeah, the police and they've also said he they I think he was shot and they said he was shot multiple times, and they said he had like supernatural strength, like like he wasn't feeling it. Man. Yeah, so again, no drugs in his system, but if you get possessed, you can have supernatural strength. Maybe maybe so a little more than tossing a few frail priests around. Yeah, that's some serious stuff there. So we kind of went off topic for the wind to go there. Yeah, but it was fun for us, so script, we do this more for us not to listen. Okay, So the episode three was called Dead in the Water and the summary, again from supernaturalfandom dot com is a water spirit takes revenge on a small town. Sam and Dean investigate a series of mysterious drownings written off as suicides. They discover the spirit is an angry little boy with the power to travel through water, who is taking revenge on certain town inhabitants for a dark secret buried long ago. Dean forms a bond with a young boy who seems to have the power of premonition. Essentially, what they said is, oh, this took place in Wisconsin, and they said the drownings have happened over a course of thirty five years and Essentially, what comes out in the story is a little boy was drowned by two childhood friends. Friends and then they were bullies and they always bullied this kid. They just took it too far. They took it too far and accent. They drowned him or they threw him in the water. No, they said they held him underwater, and they held him a little too long and he drowned. And then they they you know, they just let the body go into the lake. They freaked out. They hit his bike and all this shud. So the vengeful spirit is almost like a water elemental, I guess right, Definitely, his conduit is water. Yeah, that's how he was getting So it's an entemental elemental because in the story he was originally just killing people in the lake, but they were they had to drain the lake. They were getting ready to drink. The Army Corps engineer was going to bust the dam and drank and so he knew he had to. He had little time left the spirit to enact his revenge. What he started doing is going through pipes into homes and killing people that well, he did a couple. Yeah, so because he wanted to kill the family of the two the house were around the lake, and he was able that was their water source, so he was able to infiltrate the homes and kill he was killing like the offspring, Yeah, the two boys that the boys killed him. He also killed other people too, because they weren't all their family. So because they said that the drownings were happening over thirty five, just like a vengeful spirit, which we covered in Lady and White. What else though? Okay, so the little boy has psychic abilities, and he quit talking because it took his father. Yes, his mother was the daughter of the sheriff, which was one of the boys. Yeah, and so and so the daughter of the sheriffs. Her little boy witnessed her his father's death and knew it wasn't a drownding. So it clicks something in him. He quit talking. Then he gained the ability of premonition, and so he would draw and warn. I guess Dean, one of the Winchester boys, caught on to it, kind of befriend him, got him out of his shell, you know. And that's kind of it. They solved it, you know, I mean, it's kind of a non It has like three elements to it. But it's something we've already kind of covered. So, yeah, they discovered that it was a murder. They got they got the one. The cop, as he mentioned to Yeah, he was basically like, take me, don't take my grandkid. Yeah, because the spirit actually killed the other the other man that because it killed his both his children first, and he's like, there's nothing left to live for. He basically allowed that angry spirit to kill him. Yeah, and then the cop didn't believe it at first, and eventually when it when it came to realization that it tried to take his grandson, he basically said, take me, you know you want me. So he basically gave himself up and his grandson and daughter were saved. Yeah, so that's pretty much the whole story. Yeah, I mean it is. I know that we got really deep dived into the well, we went off on some tangents. Yeah, but you know that was that was fun for us because well, it's kind of trying to just make that connection because even though it is a wind to going and you said it's a Native not to take anything away from the Native American side of it, No, no, no it's not. But we're just trying to make a correlation, that there are multiple things in this world that are very similar. And it's odd that how people can have similar stories all over the world when some of these cultures have never even connected until the most till the modern world. So how did they share stories that are similar when there was no other connection? Yeah, and that's that's something that is poo pooed away by academics. And you know, creation stories that jive or flood stories that jive across cultures where they have no business, never had any connection. But there's evidence and so and that's what I'm saying, like, how did they all just have this crazy everybody had the same imagination can take up the story. Human nature dictates that we're going to make stories up, you know, around the campfire, to keep I mean, to make sense of things and also to keep your children out of the woods. They always like go back to that one. How did they all come up with the same I don't know. How do they all come up with You can't tell me. It's unconscious knowledge. It's just a human trait that we all delineate towards the same point of reference where we have like the stories are so similar, it's uncanny. North America and Europe and the Middle East at the same time are having these stories. So and we know like the ten thousand and five year mark there and that it ended the Ice Age, was a comet or an asteroid. They think that busted the glaciers in North Upper North America, created the Grand Canyon, right, is that what it was? We're in Utah some of the I'm not sure. Yeah, I can't remember. It's a Graham Hancock. We watched that whole series. Yeah, Apocalypse Now what was it? Yeah, I don't know it was. It was intrigued. But he goes everywhere. But like giants, God and giants and things, megalithic structures around the world that are aligned to that are reputedly like ten thousand years old after the cataclysms. Watching the skies there, they like the underground city that can support thirty five thousand inhabitants. Around the same time, like we were supposedly hunters and gatherers, still not even agricultural. So where did these big cities came bs? Yeah, like this would have taken thousands and thousands. Even the name of that lady we listened to not too long ago, who said, oh she came out with a new book with Was it her father or it's the guy we were listening to the tom horn, which he just pasked, you know, God bless you man, rec peace. But no. But she was talking about that one city that she said, the elevation is so high humans cannot live there, like and you know you study it in your history. It's South America. It's like eight thousand. It's like, well, we'll go into it later, but just high level. Just to give you food for thought, is you know they say humans, it was a human structure and human living living there. You would need oxygen, Yeah, you would need an oxygen tank. So she said, if you were up there for a few hours, you'd feel lightheaded and you might pass out. So how could you build an entire city up in a place where you can't eat megalithic giant stone if you can't even live thousand pounds? So then who was living there? It wasn't humans, I guess, not unless you know. But because the water level pushed the atmospheric you know, if there was a flood and everything was kind of semi flooded still, but nobody talks about that. So that's what I'm happened. Yeah, like, how do you pull that one off? I'm reaching its straws. You know, they'll say, oh, this was a human, you know, a pre you know, an early human structure, and it's like, but humans couldn't live there, so and nobody talking when you go to school or your history channel, learning channel, all those things talked talking about. They just say, look at this fabulous old structure. Look at these things, and you go, wow, it is pretty neat, you know. But then they'll say, oh, wait, people couldn't live there. That's funky. Down there, they have like gateways, like straight up gateways that go into a cave that and at like another gateway that's solid stone, you know, in Peru and Chili and all these places are crazy. So again went off on a tangent, but we just really want to just introduce these subject matters and we'll dive deeper, and you know, we're just using this series as a way to kind of into all these different stories and bring up the things that we find interesting. Yeah, cryptids and then our crazy theories. So we hope you enjoyed it. I mean it was a bit rambling, but this is kind of hard to it's a hard podcast to do. We'll get some structure and it'll get a little more structured. It'll be cool. I find it fascinating still that you can just go from wind to go to Possession to I mean, it's just amazing how cultures they really collide in the belief systems. And we're not all that different, you know, even our older selves, or we go back in the time, our ancestors, they had a similar belief system. It's amazing. The world's amazing. Man. So I want to tell you if you like to show, please five star rate and review, because that's how we really know that you guys dig it and we'll keep doing them. If you like Supernatural, I hope we didn't like hook you in and you thought you were getting fan fiction or fan you know, total warship here, because we do love the series. It is fun, Yes, it is fun, man. 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