CSD Supernatural EP-1 (Woman in white #1)

Welcome back to Crazy Stream Days podcast. I've got a special treat for you, especially if you are a fan or have seen even some of the Supernatural TV series. Myself and my significant other m I am, We're gonna this is one of our gest junk food for the brain type the series that we found late on, probably towards like season thirteen or fourteen. I mean, as this show had been around for fifteen seasons overall. I think it started two thousand and five, right, yes, And it's really cool if I mean, if you're listening to Crazy Strange Days, the series, the different series, the news, even you're here for a certain genre of funk, which is like you know, ghosts, shape shifters, vampires, demons, all that stuff, bumping the night stuff. So this is the right place, just a little bit of a different little series we're going to be doing, and it's there's a lot of content. The over our overall arching theme for the series is basically good and evil, God and the Devil, you know, but there's you know, the seasonal arcs and then multi episode arcs as well, which you're cool. I guess the best way to get into this is just a lot of what we're going to be discussing is obviously from the episodes, but we're kind of kind of get down to, like what were the writers, you know them mashed together certain stories and you know for their individual standalone episodes like the one we're gonna be doing the pilot is basically woman in White, right, Lah, what's the Mexican Yeah, so everybody knows about her and the treads such a tragic and scary story. Stay away from them, waterways, folks suld get you only man right because we're bastards, But uh, I can I think I can say pissed and bastards on It's okay, It's okay. So, like, you know, we have Resurrection Mary. You know, everybody knows about her over and I think it's Chicago by Resurrection Cemetery asking for a ride, you know. So around the world there's thousands of these stories and there's a common theme, which is a woman in white or a white woman or well you know, or I can just keep giving the example, but so I think we're just going to dive into it. I'll give you a and we're over at. A lot of this information is coming from Supernatural Wiki, Supernatural dot fandom dot Com, and they break down the seasons, and they break down the episodes pretty well, just to give us a quick overview of what we're going to be talking about. We're just gonna go ahead and link to these guys and use a lot of their their material. Not all of it, We're not gonna read word for word, but a lot of it. I am okay. Season one, So we're gonna give you the background on season one because the pilot is obviously in season one. So the season starts off with these two brothers. They begin searching for their father. His name's John Winchester. For several episodes, Sam and Dean Winchester, which are his sons, receive contacts and travel around the USA looking for John. The series begins with the death of their mother, which is pivotal to the whole overall arcing storyline from season one to season fifteen the end. Her name was Mary Winchester, and she died at the hands of a demon with Sam as a baby, and he was in the room as a witness. And their lives as hunters in search of the demon that killed their mother. So that's what they're all about, searching down that's the main arcing story. Twenty two years after Mary's death, Samy now goes to college and lives with his girlfriend, Jessica Moore, but at one point Dean shows up to tell him their father has gone missing, so Sammy hes intantly goes off on the hunt with Dean, and their first encounter is with the ghost, which is what we're gonna be talking about tonight. After that, Dean and Sam return to find that Jessica has been killed by the Yellow Eyed demon. Sam travels with Dean in order to get revenge for his girlfriend and his mother, and travels with Dean to get back at the same time searching for their father. So on the way they face goes shape shifters, windigoes, and other creatures such as vampires and demons. They also meet new people while introducing the audience to Bobby singer Bobby and if you've seen the series, everybody loves Bobby. It's like a drunk uncle or something for the boys. But Sam is also revealed as we learn of his past as he meets someone who has special powers like him. The season ends with Sam and Dean finding their father, but only to lose them again as he is captured Dean and Sam eventually find him, but he is revealed to be possessed by Yellow Eyes, who injures Dean very badly. Yellow Eyes and tell Sam of his intention to what he wants of him. Sam shoots John in the leg with the Colt and we'll learn all about this mysterious weapon, the colt and it is a six shooter, so it's pretty cool. Where he rushes both John and Dean to the hospital, only to crash into a truck driven by a possessed driver, thus ending season one. Okay, so this is what we're going to talk about for probably at least, I mean, I think there's twenty two episodes. There's there's going to be about twenty episodes from us, I would say the very least, maybe less, maybe more. But so let's hit the pilot. Let's check it out. And so what we're going to be talking about is where did it go? I'm sorry, folks, there it is. Sam and Dean Winchester fight a woman in white. In the series premiere, the two brothers Sam and Dean witness or mothers. We talked about this mother's paranormal death as children grew up trained to fight by a distraught father who wants nothing more to hunt down the thing that killed his wife. Sam escapes to college to start a new life normal wife, but gets pulled back in after Dean shows up on his doorstep to tell him their father is missing. Following clues from an eerie phone message from him, the boys traveled to a small town and encounter a vengeful spirit called the Woman in White. All right, am? So what we saw after the whole the beginning of the overall arc for the storyline, the main arc. So, the boys are tracking their father down and the coordinates lead them to a small town where they get sucked into this story of the Woman in White. So, a young man's driving home, leaving late at night, leaving his girlfriend's home. It's probably eleven o'clock at night, it's pretty dark remote. He sees a beautiful woman hitchhiking. I think it's around Halloween. I don't know, because he asked her, what were you at a Halloween party? Right? She needs a ride home? Take me home? So he's like, heck, yeah, I get in because she's beautiful. But she has other plans for him. For sure, she is the Lady in White, so she guides him towards an old old like look, it's like a homestead and old farm. It's like a shacky, beat up old house. No, it's abandoned for sure. It's spooky. It's in the middle of nowhere. And then she kind of turns on them. But the hitchhiking part actually is more like a different that's not the Lady in White. It's what Resurrection Mary totally. And everybody should be familiar with this. I mean, it's one of the iconic women in white stories in the States, and this one is largely Resurrection Mary is largely I think the cause, you know, because there's copycats everywhere like it across our country, the United States. There's everybody's got a cry baby bridge, you know, or a variation where you hear babies crying like a mother drowned their babies in the water. It's almost like they're all I think they just all get borrowed in you know, urban, urban, legendized. Everybody's got their own variation. But if you do not know the story of Resurrection Mary, it's it's probably the first and I think it's probably the best. That's my take. What happens with this young lady. She's the hitchhiking ghost who haunts the roadside of Archer Avenue, and that's like thirty miles south. They're thirty minutes I can't remember, like south of Chicago. So there's many variations. The most shared narrative puts her untimely death sometime in the twenties or early thirties, based upon what witnesses say she's wearing and how her hair is, and you know, it's kind of the time period that they throw her in. Now. She was either a victim of a fatal car crash, like on the way to prom I always heard like prom, or a school dance. But a lot of the stories like she was going to a nightclub because back in the day, you know, that's what young people did that went the clubs to dance and hang out and socialize, see a movie, go dancing, Right, we don't really do that anymore. So either she died on the way or was a victim of hit and run, like walking home in the rain. That's usually a rainy night. When I hear this story where she gets in a fight with her boyfriend and gets so angry that she leaves and goes to walk home and gets hit by a car which would suck. It's terrible. It's tragic, don't you think. Yeah, and again it's all men, right, men are the we're the villains. We're the real villains, and all these stories because we're dirt balls. So that poor girl gets hit all mad at her boyfriend, Jimmy probably made a pass at a girl at the dance or something. She's like, I'm out screw you, Jimmy, and there's a big fight like an eighties it's an eighties like teen drama. John Hughes probably would get his hands on that when I do it. So there's most documentary reports of Mary Describer as a young, fashionable, blonde woman no older than her mid twenties, sometimes wearing a white ball gowned. That's I don't know, I guess in the twenties maybe, I don't know. The Roaring twenties are pretty wild flapper girls and all that, but generally described as wearing white. So yeah, we'll go with it. I'm sorry, I'm getting hung up on that. So accessories, hairstyle to match, et cetera. Typically manifests as a lonely guest at a dance hall, and after a night of dancing, she asked for a ride back home, slipping into the back seat and guiding her driver for the night, usually a guy up Archer Avenue, so it's always up Archer Avenue the destination. But by the time the car reaches a local cemetery, which I believe is resurrection cemetery, you know, she vanishes without a trace, leaving nothing more than her ghostly memory. So yeah, so she supposedly buried a resurrection cemetery in Justice, Illinois. I mean a lot of people have researched this to the point where they've gotten like a time period a cemetery, I mean a lot of details other than who this young woman really is, and they're looking at death records and all these things. You know, not many people are alive that we're probably young at that time, right for them to dig. So, but we think the hitchhiking aspect of the show really plays on that resurrection Mary part of it was absolutely right, yeah, because typically the woman in white is not hitchhiking. Yeah, but kudos to the writer for sure. For sure. But when we come to find out though, is in the in the show, the storyline ends up telling you that what really happened, and so it's really more of a version of the Laerona character that is out of was that Mexican folklore. Yeah, and then in that storyline, the woman is they say became temporarily insane due to a cheating husband, and it's because of his infidelity. She thought, well, what way can I punish him? So the best way to punish him, or what might hurt the most is to kill his children. And so that's kind of goes back to really even like Greek mythology. There was a story I read about that as well. So she's just said the vengeance part of it is like he might not care about me, but he cares about his kids, So I'm gonna kill his children. And because of the you know, the anxiety and the guilt and you know, everything that would come from doing such a thing, she just couldn't live with herselves. Like she goes insane for a brief period of time and does the absolute worst. Yeah. Yeah, then they said temporarily insane, so that caused her to be able to be able to do that, even to remain children. Then she commits suicide by jumping off a bridge. Yeah. So like in her spirit goes to the home and there's like over she dies in like nineteen eighty in this show's based in I don't know, early mid two thousand, two thousand and five, I guess that, so over twenty years, right, you know, And there's stories in the town about these you know, obviously these occurrences. There's like ten or fifteen other men that through the years have disappeared under the same circumstances. So she's I think they're chasing a serial killer or some kind of ritual killer. But and she keeps saying to all the people that she rides with that she can't go home. And the reason that she can't go home is because that in this story, she drowned her children in the bathtub, so she can't face them. So that's why she will not go home. Yeah, but she asked the when she hitchhikes, she asks them to take her home exactly. But that's where she does her her killings. Yeah, Like, and I think, just like the kid, he's like, hell with this. He puts the car in reverse and Dedi's the heck out of there. And he always gets to the bridge, like the victims get to the bridge, that's where the victims are killed. At the bridge, they get to the bridge where she committed suicide. So they're they're grabbing a lot of excuse me, they're grabbing a lot of those types of stories and kind of melding them, melding them to get together to get this character for their version of it. And I find it so interesting when TV shows do this because there's always hints of you know, every poet's a thief type of saying. You know, they're kind of stealing from folklore legend and putting their little spin on it or mashed them all together to get a super legend, you know. And then I think appeals more to the masses because everybody, so you can you can peel to the you know, Latino population because it's like a lot of rona story and then you can peel it, you know, people from Chicago, Chicago, Sanise, meat Bolls, everybody can kind of jump into that story. Or at least, like you said, there's so many versions. They've heard something probably along the line in their life. Like even Europe, like we were talking before, because we've come across we were well regardless for another show or whatnot. In Europe, there's kind of like a siren that hangs out and that I think it's like Croatia, the old Serbian that area Eastern Bloc country from old Soviet Union, but like she would like a Greek siren from the old stories, but she was tied to the water. She was a woman in white, very beautiful whatever, enticing and more men to their deaths in the river. I forget her name, but it's not like that Baba Yaga, but it's something like that. It's like, oh, that's that's a creepy Eastern Block name. And some even conclude that we had read something that some people say that even the story of the the Ring is the Japanese kind of you know, derivative of it as well, because she's also more grudged the ring. Yeah, she's also in white killing people blah blah blah. So you know, similar thing, vengeful, murderous spirits of women who tended to be in almost every case wronged by men. Yeah, so that's the victim heartbreaks, suicide, heartbreak, murder, suicide. Yeah, it's global, so it's obviously women all over the world going dang men. It's the revenge. What is that theory? Hell has no fury like a woman's scorn. Yeah, so there you go. There's some truth to it, you know, cliches or cliches for a reason. I suppose so. And we kind of pick up now that we've hit the story, you know from this episode, La, how do you say it? I'm not allowed to say that. It's one of my favorite favorite Mexican folklore. I like the witch, the owl witch or whatever. That she's pretty cool too. She turns into an owl, but she's a witch type. There's some cool Mexican war man. So, like, we get to this bridge and I've come across other stories. Heck, there's one that's pretty local to us, which is your father grew up in this area Beaver County, Ohio. On the Pennsylvania side. There's a Beaver, Ohio. Then there's a Beaver, Pa. So Lady and White now the Lady in White of Summit Cut Bridge at Big Beaver in Beaver County, Pennsylvania. So this has been reported as appearing around midnight to anyone traveling on the bridge. Her legend begins in the forties or fifties as a woman who took the bend too fast and went over the rails, dropping one hundred feet to her death. The variation of this is that she killed herself by jumping from the bridge, probably due to jerky dude. I would go with that one. The variation of that she killed herself, you know, committed suicide off the bridge. But you know, and you can just keep digging and digging and digging and digging, and you will find so many. It's just there's a plethora. I mean, I'm staring at all these articles about all these different variations of the lady in white, and I know in Brazil they have one. You know, a lot of the South American cultures have it. All the way back to Spain. It's like a very variation of a Spanish or Portuguese lady in white who could have been a siren if we could keep going back through Europe to Greek to you know. I mean, I think they're all really rooted in mythology, right or ancient Oh you don't even know. I mean, there could have been. But some of these are spiritual, right, so if you like you said, it's called supernatural, and they do talk about so like some of the creatures that they talk about throughout the entire fifteen seasons, they go into angels, demons, deities from other cultures, the Leviathan, which you know, being a Christian, I always kind of heard you never and especially you know, I was a Catholic, so I I remember hearing about the Leviathans, or maybe it was a story my father. You know, I'd asked questions when I was really little, but I still didn't know what exactly they were until just recently, because we're starting to hit our Christian roots again, and especially the supernatural aspect of christian you know, our roots, which the churches have totally stomped out, which makes you know, well, like you always said, the Bible is the most supernatural book in the world. Oh yeah, that's crazy if you you know the Old Testament and the stories or yeah. Man, but but they show here Leviathan and it's interesting because they the way they depicted in the show is this it's like a huge mouth, so he's a giant dragon or lizard or but they have like but it's like an are. It's like just it's but he has this huge mouth of teeth that almost like double layer. So it's more like biblically nephilim. Yeah, probably some kind of variation of the not the actual angels that fell in their initial offspring, but the post and and and delivery and the louver in so after the flood when there was a lot of the Highbreds and ship because they couldn't sorry for swearing. Well, regardless, that's that those are stories for other days because that is a wild ride itself. Man like our boy Gary Wayne, right yep, Yeah, but the show goes into all that. So angels, demons, deities, ghosts, the four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Yeah, I remember what a reaper, and there's like many reapers, and there's like the grim Reapers of the Boss, which is pretty pretty cool storyline. Yeah, and then there's Leviathan, shape shifters, vampires, werewolves. Oh, the next episode is going to be windy. Go. Yeah, So all these things and even when you the pilot episode, which we really didn't touch on, was they tell you how the boys got into the hunting of demons and all of these creatures vamps. So basically what they are there is this subculture of humans I guess underground that you don't, almost like a secret society, and they're called hunters and they it's usually families. It runs in families where you become one by accident, like I guess John Winchester, because we learn later on that Mary actually comes from a long line of generational hunters. So you can kind of liken it to Grim. Yeah, Grim is another awesome like just jug food for your brain, just binge and be stupid. And I've heard of the Grim fairy tales, but in that series Grim our demon or animal or creature. They're like, yeah, they give special powers to fight, to fight creatures and bad things. So similar in that nature. So these days you're the balance, so the beasties don't take over the world. There's a thin line of Grims that keep them at bay. And so these guys are similar. They're hunters, hunting bad things or like you said, things that go bump in the night that people either protecting humanity in the human race. You know, people don't believe think her superstition or whatever, because even it's funny. In the pilot episode, Dean goes, you know what we hunt, you know it's real. Yeah, So even though people go, oh, that's just yeah, Dad's disappeared on a hunting trip because the kid doesn't want to go. He left that life behind. He's like screw you. But it's an interesting correlation how they show. So it shows the importance of Sam as a character because his mother died basically from a demon who it was like a ritual or of some sort. Yeah, she was on the ceiling. She was cut, it looked like she was bleeding, and then she caught on fire on the ceiling. She was pushed up on the ceiling somehow. And then the old man John comes in and it's like, where the hell did she go? Because she's screamed, but she's not there in the nursery and little Sam's eight months old or something, so he's looking at the ceiling and a blood droplet hits next to John's hand. He hits his hand and he's like, what the heck And he looks up and his wife then ignites on fire. She's like motionless pin to the ceiling with her belly, like her gut's torn out or whatever. Cut. Yeah, she's bleeding pretty much. So it's quite a sight. It's visually like whoa, Like, what the heck does that? But you know it's got to be demonic because there's nothing else I could do that. But so later in the episode, his girlfriend when he returns from trying to find his father. He was going to go back because he just agreed to help his brother and then he wanted to go back to his normal life, and his girlfriend dies the same way. Yeah, he gets back home and because he's taking the bar exam or something's gonna be a lawyer, and he lays down, he looks up, you know, a droplet hits some of blood. He looks up and there she is. His girlfriend's pinned to the ceiling the same way his mother was. So that propelled him to then almost turn into like his father, which he him and his father don't get along. It's almost his origin story in a way because even though it's like a subrigin, even though his origins were he was raised that way to be a hunter. But he gets back into the fray. Yeah, it's what his objective is now because that was his father's objective. So after his mother died, his father went on those I don't care, I'm gonna find what did this to your mother? And then and if we didn't explain it enough, I mean, Dean is the older brother by a few years, maybe four or five years. So yeah, Dean's like twenty six and he's probably twenty two if he's graduating four year degree. So yeah, so that is kind of what we're gonna do. This is our first episode and we're we're going to figure out. But I mean expect it to be something along this line with some For people who like Supernatural, they'll totally get it. It touches on just about every legend, every monster, every it's it's very cool. So if you just want to kill some time and you don't have a winner, binging uh program man, this is actually pretty good. I always thought it was cheesy, Like my nephew used to watch them, It looks stupid because it was like on a CW is something it was like, d looks it's like for teenagers. But then one day, here I go, got sucked right into it. I'm like, this is actually really good. And we joke because even though later on they introduced the angels and they talk about God, but they never do talk about Jesus. Now you can't. He said, if they brought in Jesus the whole show, it would be nothing to destroy the show. It's like Jesus could just wipe them out. In the second Hazius, you know here at fool around with that, but so that he's not included in the story. York. But it's it's kind of cool what they do to God. I hate to say it because it's almost blasphemy coming from me but being a Christian, but it's kind of fun in the beginning that God's a dude for a minute there. So if you enjoyed super Supernatural, maybe you'll enjoy this. Come with us, take the ride. It's just something fun for us to do this winter. We're eventually gonna run out of material, but i mean, obviously the material is always going to be there in our you know, in this world. But Supernatural has a kind of a cool twist on it. You know, we're gonna meet Lilith, right, Lilith the Mother of all monsters type, and that's a real interesting story arc. So I mean, there's it's yeah, kudos to the writers because they kind of put their own spin on things. But it's super cool. Like port you get to see what Purgatory's like and their their version of Purgatory, and Lilith supposedly comes across for the Bible from like one of the first like Adam's first wife or something. There's like a lot of convoluted yeah, don't. Or some have said she was like the queen of the Nephilim in a way. You know, she birthed all the major creatures and that's why she was so coveted and like like looked up to and worshiped Cane's line. You know, a lot of interesting correlations. But they, oh, we get to meet Caine too, Yeah, we do. That's a crazy that is a crazy good storyline. All right, we're just babbling. If you have not seen this show, then you don't know what we're talking about. So we're gonna try to make it appealing for those who have and those have not because of the material they cover. We're gonna do a little more. I mean some of these episodes are going to be literally twenty thirty minutes. This one we're dragging out. I mean we're at like thirty minute mark now, but some are going to take you know, the typical forty minute probably to cover. Some are gonna be twenty it we may cover multiple episodes, yeah, show if there isn't a lot of content, right, so we can just like I said, maybe we'll get fifteen maybe episodes out of season. The twenty two season run, but it'll be more streamlined. We're gonna cover the wind to Go next time, which if you guys don't know, is a Native American. I think Canadian, northern northern US, you know, great Lakes, maybe First Nation people, and we'll get to that. I'm gonna do the research. We'll dive into it. The windco is not a very good spirit to run into in the woods. There's some great stories out there that will make you poop bricks. You don't want to be that guy bought. Stay tuned. We appreciate you listening to our family out there as always. Thanks for checking out Grunkle Mickey's podcasts. Don't give me the look you thought I was gonna say my real name. We love you guys for other loyal listeners. Love you. Be patient with this as you have been with the other projects. It'll turn out pretty good. Good night, am, good night. We love you. Bye bye, Lady Day dadd